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#780 - Sun, 22 May 2005 16:51:00 John Foxx and Harold Budd
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Maybe this should be part of the "live in Brighton" thread, but it's now POST concert, so I thought we'd start again.
I'm writing a full review and will post that (somewhere) soon.

Here's a quick summary of John's contribution:

He walked on quietly, dressed in a grey shirt and black suit, after Bill Nelson had played two vignettes on acoustic guitar, entitled "The Bride in The Trees" and "The Widow in The Trees" with Harold. With Bill on electric guitar and Harold on piano, John performed a piece in two movements entitled "The Trees Alone" on which he overlaid his unique choral hymn-like vocal (in Cathedral Oceans style)
The second movement of the piece was John singing in Latin (?) accompanied only by Harold, simpler but longer, with the vocal enhanced through a synthesizer.
He was on stage for about twelve minutes, but the performance was magical.
New material too, not from the T & DM collaboration and quite different.

At the end he waved to the audience, outstretched his arm to acknowlege Harold, grinning broadly.

This was really something special.
Thank you John

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#781 - Sun, 22 May 2005 19:06:00 Re: John Foxx and Harold Budd
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I wrote a review last night on my board at http://p210.ezboard.com/ffelinedreamsfrm1.showMessage?topicID=2068.topic

But just to add here,
I did genuinely think John's contributions were the highlight of the evening (vocals!! we like vocals!)

and also - the soundman was a total wab! Pissing on all the ambient stuff with with needless excess PA hum, and ahine microphonic feedback in the closing 'jam'

John didn't take part in the all star jam at the end, I wonder why?

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#782 - Sun, 22 May 2005 21:13:00 Re: John Foxx and Harold Budd
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Thanks Feline, that was very interesting.

What was the scones hint about?!

And did any of you (presuming you joined the group of young men from this forum who were meeting up at the pier to assist the show together) TAKE PHOTOS by any chance?

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#783 - Mon, 23 May 2005 02:55:00 Re: John Foxx and Harold Budd
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For any else (like me) who was enlightened by Theo Travis last night in Brighton, check out his enlightening diary

http://www.theotravis.com/diary.htm

His interpretation of "Arabesque" movements from Avalon Sutra was one of the highlights of the evening.

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#784 - Mon, 23 May 2005 06:12:00 Re: John Foxx and Harold Budd
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Oh,
sorry,
my hellishly obscure reference was to that Monty Python sketch where Terry Jones goes into this office to get flying lessons,
and Dr Graham Chapman is suspended above the desk on a wire,
and he orders Terry to flap his arms and fly,
and Terry is like "but that won't work! you're just on a wire!"
and Chapman subjects him to a barrage of abuse about "Oh! An Hoop! No more buttered scoanes for me, mater - I'm 'orf to play the grahnd piahno!"

ETC ETC ETC

I'm afraid that I simply cannot think of grand pianos without remembering this sketch nutjob

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#785 - Mon, 23 May 2005 06:26:00 Re: John Foxx and Harold Budd
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Oh right! So sorry not to catch this one! Thought I knew ALL Monthy Pythons' sketches by heart but there you go... shocked

Hey - your photo is cute! smile

So no-one took photos then? Or talk to John? Say hello n stuff? confused

Hmm...

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#786 - Mon, 23 May 2005 08:36:00 Re: John Foxx and Harold Budd
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Dennis didn't hang around very long. He didn't want to get involved in a lenghty jam with old blondy sylvians bro....

Harold used some nice hand gestures.... he didnt like the spot light on his face.

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#787 - Mon, 23 May 2005 14:37:00 Re: John Foxx and Harold Budd
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the lights were lovely though -
lots of pure colour fields,
and particularly brilliant ones projected onto 4 verticl crepe strips
lots of sunset/twilight/flame test hues

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#788 - Mon, 23 May 2005 16:46:00 Re: John Foxx and Harold Budd
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It wasn't a case of John "not hanging around". He was present throughout the second half, watching from his seat in the wings.

The set people though really should have taken his synth away for the big finale - it stood idle throughout and obscured our view of Robin Guthrie and Jah Wobble.
There were more than a few technical 'issues' with this, the crazy feedback, hum from the PA and the spot light. Guthrie indicated this with his hands over his ears several times...

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#789 - Mon, 23 May 2005 19:30:00 Re: John Foxx and Harold Budd
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i could see OK the synth was John's mysterious presence on stage through a very .... long ...jam zzzzz .

Didn't Jah Wobble look old...

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#790 - Mon, 23 May 2005 19:36:00 Re: John Foxx and Harold Budd
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Who was that nerb with the thousand quid Mac making underwater farting noises! He was really arty.... biglaugh NOT! Robin Guthrie was cool coming out of the dark from the big gong sounds...
The soundman also left one og Harolds backing tapes run on on into it's next track. Then he started waving his hands to the back of the hall to cut the sound. Ha Ha.

JF was good he has a style of his own with those vocal parts. Is he still using a Digitech?

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#791 - Mon, 23 May 2005 20:02:00 Re: John Foxx and Harold Budd
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Well Robin Guthrie was making far more of an irritating trebly racket than the PA feedback!

I found that guy on the Mac quite ridiculous. All he did was make really naff "resonant filter sweeps" over and over again, except they were really obviously digital software and sounded rubbish... and then he'd hit these kinda "chime" sounds every now and again, which sounded like some Microsoft "Welcome to Windows" jingle. Quite who he was or how he was supposed to fit in, I failed to understand.

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#792 - Tue, 24 May 2005 01:51:00 Re: John Foxx and Harold Budd
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Quote:
Originally posted by birdsong:

He walked on quietly, dressed in a grey shirt and black suit, after Bill Nelson had played two vignettes on acoustic guitar, entitled "The Bride in The Trees" and "The Widow in The Trees" with Harold. With Bill on electric guitar and Harold on piano, John performed a piece in two movements entitled "The Trees Alone" on which he overlaid his unique choral hymn-like vocal (in Cathedral Oceans style)
The second movement of the piece was John singing in Latin (?) accompanied only by Harold, simpler but longer, with the vocal enhanced through a synthesizer.
He was on stage for about twelve minutes, but the performance was magical.
New material too, not from the T & DM collaboration and quite different.

At the end he waved to the audience, outstretched his arm to acknowlege Harold, grinning broadly.

This was really something special.
Thank you John
That's perfect Birdsong.

I wonder if some of that material was written specially for this concert or forms part of Cathedral Oceans III. If somebody has recorded this or if someone can confirm that there are plans of officially releasing this concert please come out in the open. excited

Finally, he plays along Bill Nelson. It had to happen one day. They are from the same eden. smile

BTW whoever recorded the Live at Shrewsbury concert deserves a medal. The first instrumental 6 tracks I don't recognize and are probably new but interesting tracks. The second half of the concert he performs 3 tracks from Cathedral Oceans I/II and 3 from Latin Mass.
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7) A Quiet Splendour
8) Ad Infinitum
9) Sunset Rising
10)Sanctus Sanctus
11)Tantum Ergo
12)?

Sorry, but for the last track I've got to revisit Latin Mass. His epic version of Tantum Ergo is one of his best songs and one of his best kept secrets.

John please release for the fans Live at Shrewsbury plus the 2 tracks from Harold's farewell concert as bonuses. This would be a 2CD of Heavenly Music!

Thanks

Chris C wink

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#793 - Tue, 24 May 2005 02:44:00 Re: John Foxx and Harold Budd
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Well, what a pleasant weekend! I usually go to gigs on my own, because of my relatively obscure tastes (unless it is Eminem or Morrissey or Smashing Pumpkins or Slipknot or Radiohead) so it made a change to meet like-minded souls. Hail to you all: Peter, Andreas, Craig, Birdsong, Rob and your various guests.

Thanks to Rob, we met John briefly, myself for the first time, and he kindly signed my programme. A very pleasant man with a strong handshake and a sunny demeanour.

John's section with Harold and Bill was, I agree, the highlight. The little buzzing sound blended in quite well for me but then I am easily pleased. When the feedback came in for real during the group jam, well, I quite enjoyed that too, but then I own albums by Autechre! That section was hypnotic, time just fell away, slipped itself. Let us hope the mixing desk caught the sound as intended - it deserves to be heard.

Lava, fyi, Jah Wobble played a full two basslines all night, but my God what an effortlessly lithe bass player he is.

I loved Harold's solo piano section, although at one point, bless him, he left the CD playing that he was accompanying himself on, such that we heard a few seconds of the next track!

And the Balanescu Quartet, wow, what a beautifully vulnerable sound they make!

I even liked the laptop geezer, Steve Cobby.

And what a beautifully sunny Sunday morning in Brighton and Newhaven, where I lived for 7 months or so and where I first heard Harold Budd 12+ years ago.

The changing colours of the spotlights on Harold's piano were just the icing on the pier.

Mark

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#794 - Tue, 24 May 2005 18:15:00 Re: John Foxx and Harold Budd
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Hi All!

I sit here in Peter's room and cannot wait with my comment until I'm back in Hamburg this evening.
For me it was the first step into a live performed ambient concert. BUT WHAT A CONCERT!!! I enjoyed it a lot (My friend Michaela too). All the musicians had a high class quality. It was a pleasure to see them playing. BUT THE TWO TRACKS WITH JOHN WERE A SPECIAL "SWEETIE"!! Now I can imagine how a Cathedral Oceans live gig would sounding like. Sometimes my hair stood up in my neck!

It was nice too to meet all the Others: Peter, Craig and Sarah, Mark, Martin, Mike and our Rob!

Thank you Rob for shouting John to wait a little while as me, Peter and Mark came for a short meeting with the "great man". Though John was in hurry he was so kind to sign my copy of Transl./Drift M., the Programmes for the others and had a little small talk with us!! Thank you for that ,John!!

For me, it was worth to made my trip to Brighton - I had a very great evening.

I hope we can enjoy a real live gig from John in the not too far future!!!
Perhaps for the release of Cathedral Oceans 3!??

It's sure I would be there!!

I wonder if there is a copy of the gig ESP. THE TWO TRACKS WITH JOHN????

WHAT A NICE EVENING!! excited

Bye, Andreas

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#795 - Tue, 24 May 2005 20:25:00 Re: John Foxx and Harold Budd
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TCP (can't get used to any new or longer names, dear!) - So glad you and the others enjoyed it so much. It does make a difference whether you go alone or in a group, doesn't it? smile Er... anyone joining me for the Gang of Four on Saturday?! wink

Great that you could meet the maestro in person. It must be a weird feeling. He seems nice.

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#796 - Wed, 25 May 2005 01:54:00 Re: John Foxx and Harold Budd
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Though John was in hurry he was so kind to sign my copy of Trasl./Drift M., the Programmes for the others and had a little small talk with us!! Thank you for that ,John!!

It sounds like a dream come true.

One day Chris C will venture to one of his gigs and meet the "great man" laugh

Chris C wink

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#797 - Wed, 25 May 2005 19:49:00 Re: John Foxx and Harold Budd
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Hi all
Time for me to add my comments about the concert.
I enjoyed thoroughly the first half and I agree with everyone else that John "stole" the show. This alone was well worth the entrance fee. I hated the second half, the sound was awful especially the feed back and I was wondering when it was going to end.

It would be nice in the future if John was to do a CO live concert because the three tracks he done as certainly wetted by appetite for more. I did ask John about a CO live concert and he just smiled.

It was really nice to be able to meet some people from this site. The church puddle, Birdsong, Craig & Shadow Man. Considering some of us were strangers to each other we got along very well. We have this common interest in John. Hopefully if there is another concert we came all meet again
Regards
Peter wink

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#798 - Wed, 25 May 2005 20:59:00 Re: John Foxx and Harold Budd
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Rob,
I'm sure you made some great photos from your position in front of the stage. I hope we can see it soon on Metamatic??!! I'm keen to see them!! wink

Bye, Andreas

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#799 - Wed, 25 May 2005 21:14:00 Re: John Foxx and Harold Budd
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One day Chris C will venture to one of his gigs and meet the "great man" laugh

Chris C wink
It was the second time for me and all I can say to you, is you would not be disappointed !!!!

He's a real "great man"!! wink

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#800 - Fri, 27 May 2005 09:41:00 Re: John Foxx and Harold Budd
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I so envy you guys!!!

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#801 - Sun, 29 May 2005 03:42:00 Re: John Foxx and Harold Budd
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Quote:
Originally posted by Chris C:

…whoever recorded the Live at Shrewsbury concert deserves a medal. The first instrumental 6 tracks I don't recognize and are probably new but interesting tracks. The second half of the concert he performs 3 tracks from Cathedral Oceans I/II and 3 from Latin Mass.
...
7) A Quiet Splendour
8) Ad Infinitum
9) Sunset Rising
10)Sanctus Sanctus
11)Tantum Ergo
12)?

Sorry, but for the last track I've got to revisit Latin Mass. His epic version of Tantum Ergo is one of his best songs and one of his best kept secrets.

Chris C wink [/QB]


Wow. At last! Thanks Chris, I have been trying to source these songs for AAAAGES from Latin.
Am I right in thinking The Sanctus is a recital from the Mass itself, and "Tantum Ergo" is a hymn for the Benediction?

Playing the Shrewsbury bootleg again now
I agree that, before the Latin pieces, track 9 is (probably) Sunset Rising from CO1, although the arrangement is different.
I personally don't think tracks 7 and 8 are from CO2 though. At least, I still can't recognise them??


Has anyone else got anywhere with this?

I wish my Latin was better…then perhaps I could understand more of what John performed at Brighton
bemused

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#802 - Mon, 30 May 2005 05:39:00 Re: John Foxx and Harold Budd
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#803 - Tue, 31 May 2005 03:31:00 Re: John Foxx and Harold Budd
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Am I right in thinking The Sanctus is a recital from the Mass itself, and "Tantum Ergo" is a hymn for the Benediction?

Playing the Shrewsbury bootleg again now
I agree that, before the Latin pieces, track 9 is (probably) Sunset Rising from CO1, although the arrangement is different.
I personally don't think tracks 7 and 8 are from CO2 though. At least, I still can't recognise them??

Has anyone else got anywhere with this?

I wish my Latin was better…then perhaps I could understand more of what John performed at Brighton
bemused
Hi Birdsong!

That's how I feel with the the last track. It's familiar but can't give it a title. :rolleyes:

Track 8 is definitely from CO2 and is Ad Infinitum. It takes a couple of listens. Now, you may be right with Track 7. John begins with one of his chants in Latin and the track I believe develops into A Quiet Splendour. I could be wrong here.

Yes Birdsong Sanctus Sanctus is a recital from Mass and Tantum Ergo is a reworking (of the music) from the Benediction hymn.

I'm sure that Robin has the complete track listing. Perhaps John has this concert scheduled for release or some of the instrumental tracks 1 - 6 will feature in CO3. John listens and is aware of what his fans wants. I would sometimes wish that he joined us in the Forum but I'm pretty sure he reads our comments here.

God bless you John!

Chris C wink

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#804 - Tue, 31 May 2005 04:41:00 Re: John Foxx and Harold Budd
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Thanks C. I'll go away and listen to it again.
Good luck with the last piece - personally it's one of my favourites!

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#805 - Tue, 31 May 2005 16:59:00 Re: John Foxx and Harold Budd
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Hi Birdsong
I agree with you the last track on CO live is the best one. I sometimes think to myself this is what CO3 WILL sound like. I think this should be ready for release in 2008 banghead but I'd like to hear it sooner :rolleyes:
John did say to me once that he did read what is writtern on this forum.
Did you have any luck down loading what you recorded at Brighton on your phone on to CD?
Regards
Peter

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#806 - Tue, 31 May 2005 18:55:00 Re: John Foxx and Harold Budd
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No - it was crap.
Serves me right for trying frown

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#807 - Tue, 31 May 2005 20:24:00 Re: John Foxx and Harold Budd
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Hi Birdsong
That's a shame cry
Perhaps someone unbeknown to us recorded it and the copy will eventually do the rounds :p
Regards
Peter

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#808 - Tue, 31 May 2005 20:51:00 Re: John Foxx and Harold Budd
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Yes, this would be great!!!!

I would be in the line to buy a copy too!!!! laugh

I'm sure anyone HAD RECORDED IT!!!!! eek

Let us hope, one of us can get a copy...

Bye, Shadow Mandreas

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#809 - Thu, 09 Jun 2005 05:19:00 Re: John Foxx and Harold Budd
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http://www.billnelsonmusic.com/html/villa/study.php

New diary entry from Bill Nelson, a nice souvenir for those of us who were there, and an evocative piece for those of us who weren't.

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#810 - Thu, 09 Jun 2005 05:52:00 Re: John Foxx and Harold Budd
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That's fantastic!

Don't u just wish all the artists would put afew words down like that wink

Surprised me how last minute it all was. Even during rehearsals it seems Bill was going to play 4 tracks, inc. both of John's.
Shows how flexible and professional great musicians really are.

Thanks for posting

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#811 - Fri, 10 Jun 2005 01:16:00 Re: John Foxx and Harold Budd
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This is excellent.

What a talent Bill Nelson is. I hope he gets together with John to write an electronic album. Would they fit in the studio with all their equipment?

"No Bill we'll record outside in the garden" John

Chris C laugh
Never quits dreaming!

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#812 - Fri, 10 Jun 2005 20:51:00 Re: John Foxx and Harold Budd
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Quote:
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BTW whoever recorded the Live at Shrewsbury concert deserves a medal. The first instrumental 6 tracks I don't recognize and are probably new but interesting tracks. The second half of the concert he performs 3 tracks from Cathedral Oceans I/II and 3 from Latin Mass.
...
7) A Quiet Splendour
8) Ad Infinitum
9) Sunset Rising
10)Sanctus Sanctus
11)Tantum Ergo
12)?

Sorry, but for the last track I've got to revisit Latin Mass. His epic version of Tantum Ergo is one of his best songs and one of his best kept secrets.
CHRIS!

A very big thank you for your work on the tracklist! smile

I know I'm a bit late but not too late, I hope... :rolleyes:

Shame on me sad

Regards , Andreas

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#813 - Wed, 15 Jun 2005 03:07:00 Re: John Foxx and Harold Budd
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For what it's worth, my humble review of the evening in Brighton is posted here:

http://www.revolutionforum.net/index.php?ind=reviews&op=entry_view&iden=5

Thanks to Sea of Sin for hosting smile

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#814 - Wed, 15 Jun 2005 04:55:00 Re: John Foxx and Harold Budd
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For what it's worth, my humble review of the evening in Brighton is posted here:

http://www.revolutionforum.net/index.php?ind=reviews&op=entry_view&iden=5

Thanks to Sea of Sin for hosting smile
...Otherwise known as Mr. X. wink

I can say, personally, that it's an excellent review and well worth reading! Thanks Martin! (And you're welcome, on behalf of both of us.) laugh

Mrs. X

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#815 - Thu, 23 Jun 2005 06:28:00 Re: John Foxx and Harold Budd
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There's another online review from The Independent here:

http://enjoyment.independent.co.uk/low_res/story.jsp?story=641807&host=5&dir=230

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