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#66435 - Fri, 11 Jul 2008 17:12:00 Yamaha SS30
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Hi folks

I'm looking to hire/borrow an SS30 for Dave Formula to use in a project we're doing in Feb 09.

I've not tried the usial hire places yet and wondered if any of our members here would let theirs out of their sight for a couple of weeks in the new year subject to insurances etc in place.

Big thanks in advance to anyone who might be able to assist.

Feel free to drop me an email if you prefer.

Cheers Graeme

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#66436 - Fri, 11 Jul 2008 17:40:00 Re: Yamaha SS30
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Hi Graeme,

Dave is more than welcome to borrow one of ours, although the logistics of getting a Yamaha SS-30 down there may proove to be quite costly!

An alternative to that would be Si-W as he's much closer (Darlington)
Dunno if he would hire out his beloved string machine, mind you if there's money involved he might bite yer hand off as he's tighter than twa coats o' paint!

Chappie also has one
Nige has one
Graham M has one


Let me know yer thoughts ok mate wink

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#66437 - Fri, 11 Jul 2008 17:51:00 Re: Yamaha SS30
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Don

Thats brilliant. Obviously its important that the ss30 is in proper order so transport would not be primary issue. Can i drop you a line by email mate?

Ta

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#66438 - Sat, 12 Jul 2008 05:50:00 Re: Yamaha SS30
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Graeme,

Dave is more than welcome to borrow mine - it's in perfect condition.

Let me know

Chappie

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#66439 - Sun, 13 Jul 2008 20:21:00 Re: Yamaha SS30
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Some trivia here:

The SS-30 did form part of Dave's FSE and prominently features on the brilliant Definitive Gaze . On the live shows Howard played this while Dave's hands were busy with his electric piano and Arp Odyssey Mk 1.

BTW Graeme which electric piano was it in those days?

Chris wink
PS The SS-30 and the Odyssey Mk3 are slowly creeping up my synth wish list laugh

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#66440 - Mon, 14 Jul 2008 10:13:00 Re: Yamaha SS30
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Chappie & Don

fantastic and thanks for the offer. I'm seing Dave tonight (Monday) and will let him know and be in touch after that. Thank you so much again.

Chris

Dave used the Yamaha Cp70b Electric Piano like most keyboard players at the time (or the CP80 with more keys). We were discussing this piano the other day and Dave said he never liked his and wished he hadn't used it to record with on "Secondhand Daylight".

Yamaha CP70B

Thanks for the interest

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#66441 - Mon, 14 Jul 2008 18:28:00 Re: Yamaha SS30
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Graeme,

I've sent you a couple of emails re SS-30

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#66442 - Mon, 14 Jul 2008 21:17:00 Re: Yamaha SS30
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hmmm, maybe my spam filter picked them up. I'll check it out Don.

ta

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#66443 - Tue, 15 Jul 2008 00:33:00 Re: Yamaha SS30
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Chappie is probably closer to you wink

No worries wink

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#66444 - Thu, 17 Jul 2008 20:25:00 Re: Yamaha SS30
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Saw Dave on monday and he was delighted and moved by the offers. I've sent an email to you Paul as it would seem you are closer.

Thanks again

Graeme

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#66445 - Fri, 18 Jul 2008 06:11:00 Re: Yamaha SS30
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Very very exciting - I`m looking to hear the
finished result!!! smile

Graeme...I have a question. Hopefully you
don`t mind, and perhaps you know.
Was it Dave who played the "rhythm"synth
on The Damned Don`t Cry? And do you know
what synth was used? (PPG ???).

All The Best! smile
Jesper

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#66446 - Fri, 18 Jul 2008 06:12:00 Re: Yamaha SS30
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forward (indeed) wink

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#66447 - Fri, 18 Jul 2008 06:37:00 Re: Yamaha SS30
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Quote:
Originally posted by JesperDK:
Graeme...I have a question. Hopefully you
don`t mind, and perhaps you know.
Was it Dave who played the "rhythm"synth
on The Damned Don`t Cry? And do you know
what synth was used? (PPG ???).

All The Best! smile
Jesper
Jesper

As owner of a Pro-one I must say that the "rhythm" synth is none other than its big brother the Prophet 5, possibly a Revision 2. It's most likely that Dave played this one as he used to own this treasure. Although, I stand to be corrected. Let Graeme confirm.

Chris wink

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#66448 - Fri, 18 Jul 2008 07:01:00 Re: Yamaha SS30
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A Prophet 5...WOW!!! Thanks a lot Chris!!! smile
I have always wondered a lot about it...it`s such a cool riff and sound!

Grame will probaly confirm... smile

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#66449 - Fri, 18 Jul 2008 07:04:00 Re: Yamaha SS30
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My spelling is really s.....! Sorry Graeme! wink
I will have some sleep now...

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#66450 - Fri, 18 Jul 2008 18:39:00 Re: Yamaha SS30
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Graeme,

Did you send me an email?
It's not in the old inbox matey! confused2

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#66451 - Fri, 18 Jul 2008 18:43:00 Re: Yamaha SS30
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read the post again peachy...... he said he sent an email to Paul! (silly tattie :rolleyes: ) :p

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#66452 - Sat, 19 Jul 2008 14:05:00 Re: Yamaha SS30
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Quote:
Originally posted by JesperDK:
A Prophet 5...WOW!!! Thanks a lot Chris!!! smile
I have always wondered a lot about it...it`s such a cool riff and sound!

Grame will probaly confirm... smile
Hi Jesper

Just remembering that the Prophet 5, unlike the Pro-one, hasn't got an internal sequencer. This means that the (bass) rhythm would be programmed in a sequencer. This bass rhythm would be in sync with the electronic percussion. The bass rhythm would then be fed into a Prophet 5 for treatment ie by adjusting the LFO speed, the oscillators, the modulators and the envelopes.

So I would assume its a sequencer plus a Prophet 5.

Another possibility could be a sequencer plus an ARP Odyssey Mk III.

I would personally go for the first option.

I must say that The Anvil involved a lot of elaborate work. It also included an extraordinary array of synths including the Minimoog and the Oberheim Obx.

Hope to find out.

Chris wink

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#66453 - Mon, 21 Jul 2008 05:30:00 Re: Yamaha SS30
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Yes,you are completely right Chris! smile
That could be the way they did it.
As far as I know, there is also a another
trick you can do - the envelope follower
trick - where the synth follows the rhythm
of the drummachine, you just hit the notes
on the keyboard and you got the rhythm from
the drummachine and the sound from the synth.
It may sound a little different, than if it was
sequenced, I think. You can do that on the Minimoog Voyager if you got the MF-101 Moogerfooger filter with envelope follower.

The synth work was indeed very very cool on The
Anvil - I´m also pretty sure the CS-80 was used.

Jesper wink

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#66454 - Mon, 21 Jul 2008 09:06:00 Re: Yamaha SS30
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Don

Sorry for the confusion. I did indeed send the email to Paul as he's much nearer.

Thanks very much for the offer though mate.

As for the question as to which track/synth I'll ask Dave for you. Although "Damned Don't Cry" does indeed sound like (and probably is) a sequencer Dave did tell me a while ago that he played a lot of those kind of "Sequenced" parts by hand - think he mentioned "Night Train" as being one of those tracks.

Thanks for the interest

All the best

Graeme

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#66455 - Mon, 21 Jul 2008 19:27:00 Re: Yamaha SS30
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Thanks a lot for the great
info Graeme!!! smile

And thanks a lot for asking Dave!!! smile

All The Best!
Jesper

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#66456 - Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:01:00 Re: Yamaha SS30
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Quote:
Originally posted by Graeme:

As for the question as to which track/synth I'll ask Dave for you. Although "Damned Don't Cry" does indeed sound like (and probably is) a sequencer Dave did tell me a while ago that he played a lot of those kind of "Sequenced" parts by hand - think he mentioned "Night Train" as being one of those tracks.
Thanks Graeme.

Please check if he fed the sequenced parts into a keyboard ie a Prophet 5 or ARP Odyssey. I'm very intrigued.

It would be great to sit down and have a coffee or tea with Dave and talk about the making of The Anvil.

Enjoy!

Chris wink

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#66457 - Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:24:00 Re: Yamaha SS30
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Graeme.

Do you know anything about a reality TV show featuring Visage?

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#66458 - Mon, 28 Jul 2008 09:41:00 Re: Yamaha SS30
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As far as I know only Steve is taking part in the Sky TV makeover show although Dave (And probably the others) was asked.

Chris I'll try to do an interview with Dave on the Visage stuff. We were talking about doing some interviews earlier in the year to put on his mypace page, we've just been very tied up in the last couple of months on a new project.

Thanks for the interest

Graeme

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#66459 - Fri, 01 Aug 2008 22:25:00 Re: Yamaha SS30
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VERY cool Graeme!!! Thanks a whole lot!!!

wink

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#66460 - Sun, 03 Aug 2008 18:03:00 Re: Yamaha SS30
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Cheers Graeme!

Really looking forward to read them on Dave's mySpace.

Chris wink

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#66461 - Wed, 01 Oct 2008 00:37:00 Re: Yamaha SS30
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Quote:
Originally posted by Chris C:

Hi Jesper

Just remembering that the Prophet 5, unlike the Pro-one, hasn't got an internal sequencer. This means that the (bass) rhythm would be programmed in a sequencer. This bass rhythm would be in sync with the electronic percussion. The bass rhythm would then be fed into a Prophet 5 for treatment ie by adjusting the LFO speed, the oscillators, the modulators and the envelopes.

So I would assume its a sequencer plus a Prophet 5.

Another possibility could be a sequencer plus an ARP Odyssey Mk III.
Dave recently told me that the "rhythm" synth part on "Damned" was done on the Odyssey (not sure if it was Dave's or Billy's synth though)

Moreover, Billy Currie's Odyssey w/ARP sequencer provided the bassline on "Fade To Gray".


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I must say that The Anvil involved a lot of elaborate work. It also included an extraordinary array of synths including the Minimoog and the Oberheim Obx.


Are you really sure they used an OB-X on that album? I know that Billy used one on Ultravox' Rage In Eden --which was recorded some six months prior to The Anvil--but that's about it.

Micke

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#66462 - Wed, 01 Oct 2008 05:48:00 Re: Yamaha SS30
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Hej Micke!

Thanks a whole lot!!!
WOW...the Odyssey!!! cool
I don`t know why...but
I would never had guessed that...!

smile

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#66463 - Wed, 01 Oct 2008 23:53:00 Re: Yamaha SS30
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You're welcome, JesperDK :-)

The soft solo sound on Fade To Gray is also coming from Billy's Odyssey.

Moreover, all the "interludes" between tracks on Visage's debut album were done on a Fairlight CMI. Dave Formula performed those parts and Richard James Burgess took care of the programming. Richard also did a lot of the electronic percussion stuff on that album, using his prototype SDS5 (driven by the MC-8) and possibly SDS3s and CR-78.

Micke

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#66464 - Thu, 02 Oct 2008 00:03:00 Re: Yamaha SS30
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Tak så mycket Micke - once again! wink

Yes...I too know that the bass and the solo
on Fade To Grey came from Billy´s Odyssey.
I also got an interview with Billy somewhere
where he talks about Dave Formula "just"
improvising the intro on Fade To Grey -
on the Fairlight.
I didn`t know about the interludes and the
electronic percussion/drums!

smile

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#66465 - Wed, 25 Mar 2009 01:41:00 Re: Yamaha SS30
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Quote:
Originally posted by Graeme:
Hi folks

I'm looking to hire/borrow an SS30 for Dave Formula to use in a project we're doing in Feb 09.

I've not tried the usial hire places yet and wondered if any of our members here would let theirs out of their sight for a couple of weeks in the new year subject to insurances etc in place.

Big thanks in advance to anyone who might be able to assist.

Feel free to drop me an email if you prefer.

Cheers Graeme
Graeme,

Please contact either Chappie or myself re the above ASAP...thanks wink

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