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#65332 - Tue, 28 Dec 2004 03:59:00 Visions in Blue and Vienna
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Hi!
May it be that "Visions in Blue" is the successor of "Vienna"? It's slow and dark, but has a faster more-or-less instrumental part. After this speed-up part it falls back into the old tempo. In both tracks there's no guitar nor bass-guitar contained. But the piano plays a key role. And both do not contain acoustic drums.

If we look at "Hymn" from this point of view we also might find out similarities to "The Voice". I think these two are related to each other. For me both songs have everything an Ultravox song needs.

.....and same goes to "Passing Strangers" and "Mine for Life".

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#65333 - Tue, 28 Dec 2004 23:03:00 Re: Visions in Blue and Vienna
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You've got too much time on your hands, Nils...but for the record, I reckon Visions In Blue knocks Vienna into a cocked hat any day.

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#65334 - Wed, 29 Dec 2004 08:27:00 Re: Visions in Blue and Vienna
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Nils, if your theory here is that "Visions in Blue" is akin to (a) "Part Two" of/to "Vienna", I have always found that a valid concept. Lyrically there are references that seem to harken back to the ambience and lyrical content of "Vienna".

If this is in fact what you were implying in your post (and please correct me/clarify if I am mistaken), then I do indeed see your line of thought, and at least with those two songs I do concur.

Respectfully -
Volglory

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#65335 - Wed, 29 Dec 2004 18:00:00 Re: Visions in Blue and Vienna
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Quote:
Originally posted by Nils:
Hi!
May it be that "Visions in Blue" is the successor of "Vienna"? It's slow and dark, but has a faster more-or-less instrumental part. After this speed-up part it falls back into the old tempo. In both tracks there's no guitar nor bass-guitar contained. But the piano plays a key role. And both do not contain acoustic drums.

If we look at "Hymn" from this point of view we also might find out similarities to "The Voice". I think these two are related to each other. For me both songs have everything an Ultravox song needs.

.....and same goes to "Passing Strangers" and "Mine for Life".
Hi Nils, amazingly I thought that too a long while back, at least of "Vienna" and "Visions in Blue"...so I do agree, but it's obvious in a way as this is the only more subdued song on the Quartet-album which faintly reminds you of "Vienna".

With regard to "The Voice" and "Hymn" - once thought I'd follow that line up with "Cold, cold heart" - don't ask me why really!!! bemused

"The Voice" and "Hymn" certainly work nicely together when played live after one another but then it's usually followed by "Dancing..." or whatever...so I'm sure we could find all sorts of links between different songs in different contexts..."Vienna" and "Cold, cold heart" being about the coldness of emotion perhaps...etc....

As for "Passing Strangers" and "Mine for Life" I can't follow that link really, what do you mean`? :rolleyes: laugh zzzzz

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#65336 - Wed, 29 Dec 2004 22:28:00 Re: Visions in Blue and Vienna
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All the Midge era albums had a slightly OTT melodramatic slowie - "Vienna", "Your Name...", "Visions...", "Lament", "All In One Day". I'm sure I read in an interview once upon a time that that was entirely intentional.

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#65337 - Wed, 29 Dec 2004 22:36:00 Re: Visions in Blue and Vienna
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That's been happening since the very beginning with John Foxx, though, hasn't it?

Ultravox! had "My Sex."
Ha! Ha! Ha! had "Hiroshima Mon Amour."
Systems Of Romance had "Just For A Moment."

...And they were all tacked on the end of their respective albums. (Not the case during the Midge era though.)

Mrs. X

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#65338 - Thu, 30 Dec 2004 02:58:00 Re: Visions in Blue and Vienna
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I well remember the day that QUARTET was released. The quiet and earnest ones returned from "Our Price" in town, clutching the precious vinyl and speaking about the tracks (this was the days when a). you could listen to tracks in the shop by nicely asking someone behind the counter and b) "our Price" contained anything decent and affordable). The overwhelming initial sentiment seemed to be that HYMN was the new VIENNA and I can understand why. Both have that very formal feel to them but contain poignancy, giving both that sensation of a singer and a song fighting for expression against some hidden and all-pervading stricture. VISIONS IN BLUE doesn't really have that, it's more intimately sentimental, more overtly sensitive. Musically, though, I well take your point, Nils. Ach, they're all good songs, and I miss like Hell anticipating the next album.

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#65339 - Thu, 30 Dec 2004 07:22:00 Re: Visions in Blue and Vienna
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Hi all!
Thanks for Your answers! Yes, I was talking about "Visions" being somewhat of a "Vienna II". I didn't mean the lyrics, as I truly must admit that Ultravox lyrics are mostly very cryptic for me. If they have a message then I hardly understand it.... :rolleyes: .

I think "Mine for Life" and "Passing Strangers" have some similarities, e.g. the guitar-riff. But I love "Mine for Life" while I never really liked "Passing Strangers" too much... .
And one more connection are the scenes of the "Passing Strangers" videoclip in "Mine for Life" on Monument wink .

And Joby: don't worry, making those threads doesn't need too much time wink .

I absolutely did not want to make "Visions", "Hymn" or "Mine for Life" bad!! I just wanted to say that I see a relationship.

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#65340 - Thu, 30 Dec 2004 09:15:00 Re: Visions in Blue and Vienna
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Hi, I see relationships beetween "I Remember", "Serenade", "DWTiME" and "Sweet Surrender",
or between "Passionate Replay" and "The Thin Wall", Feel free when you try to find any other many relationships smile

Bye
Sly

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#65341 - Thu, 30 Dec 2004 22:04:00 Re: Visions in Blue and Vienna
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i also see a lot of similarities or "relationships" in many ultravox songs ... simply because it's the group's concept & therefore i wouldn't spent too much thoughts on that matter , as it might very easily spoil the "magic" of the individual songs in the end !!! eek

jus' my 2 cents of the euro ... wink

anyway ... c u ! smile

olaf a.k.a. ..::=|MeTaMaTRiX|=::..

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#65342 - Fri, 21 Jan 2005 07:17:00 Re: Visions in Blue and Vienna
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Face
caught
by the light

<img border="0" alt="[Suave]" title="" src="graemlins/suave.gif" />

pretty cool atmosphere
it's a cocktail of feelings here
both frightning and self-inflicted
sort of homesick morbid
a kind of recognition
a kind of tears

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