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#51419 - Thu, 30 Sep 2004 18:20:00 The videos
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Hi! Here's a thread to discuss anything about the videos.

HYMN:
After Midge's band signed the contract with the devil they turned from keyboard/bass/drums to a fully electronic band. Was this just meant to look cool or was it a joke about the well-known, stupid discussion about synthesizers being unhuman, cold and just bad which exists as long as the synthesizer itself?

Warren's director looks a bit like Midge at the beginning of "The thin Wall" (the clothing). I never can recognize his face, but is it Midge?

THE THIN WALL:
Have You ever recognized that the Casablanca-Scene with Chris and Billy on the train station was shot in a very small room? You can see that everything but the bank and the streetlight is painted on the walls and that Billy still stands in the background although it looked as if he would have run away.

Ever noticed that Laura Brannigan used very similar scenes of those hands that come through the thin wall in "Self Control"? (By the way: Laura Brannigan died a few weeks ago)

WE CAME TO DANCE:
Does the video have anything to do with the song??

PASSING STRANGERS:
This is the only "new romantical" clip they have done in my opinion. Besides that it's the only single (and together with "Private Lives" the only song) with strong 70s influences (soundscape).
At the end the two pantomimes sink in this "sand", just like Bowie in "Ashes to Ashes". An hommage?

THE VOICE:
Together with "The thin Wall" my favourite video. Everything's perfect, e.g. the pigeon on the piano, Warren's cigarette and the drums. And the end, when the screen turns black and only shows the Ultravox-sign with the two horses - that's so precious, it couldn't have been done better!

ONE SMALL DAY:
They really brought those highly expensive synths up there in the cold?!?!?!? A Yamaha CS80 e.g. normally doesn't like little temperature-differences. I always thought it would die in such cold environments!! I wouldn't dare to do this... .

And by the way: on "The Collection" DVD there's missing "Visions in Blue" (I think everyone knows). But in the credits they say that the clips 5-12 are directed by Midge and Chris. The DVD does only contain 11 Clips wink .

The idea of this topic came here:
Specific gear question: what\'s that noise?

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#51420 - Fri, 01 Oct 2004 03:15:00 Re: The videos
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And by the way: on "The Collection" DVD there's missing "Visions in Blue" (I think everyone knows). But in the credits they say that the clips 5-12 are directed by Midge and Chris. The DVD does only contain 11 Clips wink .
Yeah, I think you'll find that producers of the DVD just took all the tracks direct from the video, took the decision to remove Visions In Blue (misguided as we all know), but then couldn't be bothered to change the credits. On the other hand they did change one of the song titles on the artwork...

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#51421 - Fri, 01 Oct 2004 04:30:00 Re: The videos
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Looking at the video for RTWW, I'm curious to if the video does actually follow the lyrics closely and is actually an anti-war song depite the inclusion of the Monument.

I'm sure the title is based on the phrase that those who 'sow the wind reap the whirlwind', although Midge singing 'Reap the whirlwind' doesn't quite have the same ring to it...

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#51422 - Fri, 01 Oct 2004 08:52:00 Re: The videos
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[b]HYMN:
Warren's director looks a bit like Midge at the beginning of "The thin Wall" (the clothing). I never can recognize his face, but is it Midge?[/b]
No it's me.

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#51423 - Fri, 01 Oct 2004 19:30:00 Re: The videos
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Oh! DId You an Colin play even more roles? And in DWTIME, do You "only" play the two scientists that walk from right to left before the accident?

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#51424 - Fri, 01 Oct 2004 21:53:00 Re: The videos
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Oh! DId You an Colin play even more roles? And in DWTIME, do You "only" play the two scientists that walk from right to left before the accident?
Hi Nils,
we also "dressed the set" in the panic in the streets scene, when Warren was done up as a priest..... Father Clint, I presume.
Danny.

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#51425 - Fri, 01 Oct 2004 23:02:00 Re: The videos
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What do You mean with "dressed the set"?

Father Clint - funny, he can be seen for about a second, but there's a name for the character. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="cool.gif" />

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#51426 - Sat, 02 Oct 2004 10:12:00 Re: The videos
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What do You mean with "dressed the set"?
Hi Nils,
"the set" is the area that is being filmed, and anything placed in this area for visual effect would be the "dressing" ie, "props" or "extras" like Colin and myself. I like to think, in this case, of us as "proxtras".

As an aside, I seem to remember a great photo of Warren in his priest outfit perusing a porno mag. I don't know who took it but it was a classic.

As another aside, I've given Cerise and Rob some slides that I took on the Monument and Set Movement tours and I think they will be posting them (after some selection).

Danny.

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#51427 - Sat, 02 Oct 2004 10:25:00 Re: The videos
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As an aside, I seem to remember a great photo of Warren in his priest outfit perusing a porno mag. I don't know who took it but it was a classic.
Danny.
Think that's in the Rage In Eden programme...

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#51428 - Sat, 02 Oct 2004 22:21:00 Re: The videos
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Think that's in the Rage In Eden programme...
It's in the "Set Movements" tour programme...

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#51429 - Sat, 02 Oct 2004 22:27:00 Re: The videos
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Ah well, one off... wink

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#51430 - Sat, 02 Oct 2004 22:32:00 Re: The videos
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Ah well, one off... wink
Actually, two off, LOL! Quartet was in the middle... wink laugh

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#51431 - Sat, 02 Oct 2004 22:36:00 Re: The videos
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Will be getting some new pics up shortly - fiddling with some new Gallery software. I think we need to get that specific pic up first, as Danny says, it's a classic!

Re: Father Clint, I think Danny means Clint Eastwood - there was a definite resemblance there!

Danny funnily enough, I'm scanning your remaining trannies right this second... I've booked Mon through Weds off work to get the CD up in the merch area (I'm so, so sorry it's taking so long!). I'm bloody determined to finish it this week!

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#51432 - Sun, 03 Oct 2004 00:21:00 Re: The videos
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Quote:
Originally posted by Si_W:
[b]Ah well, one off... wink
Actually, two off, LOL! Quartet was in the middle... wink laugh [/b]
I'm just having an off day, leave me alone... wink bemused confused2

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#51433 - Sun, 03 Oct 2004 01:20:00 Re: The videos
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Si, yer havin' an 'Off Week' mate. wink

Ya never acknowledged receipt of ya MFL 2 dvd ya queer mush !!! Az just assumed the postie's snaffled it biglaugh

Yeah, knew the 'Clint' pic wasn't in RIE programme as that was '81 whereas the DWTIME vid was '84. shocked

Looking forward to those transparencies being displayed on here <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="cool.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="cool.gif" />

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#51434 - Sun, 03 Oct 2004 03:17:00 Re: The videos
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Si, yer havin' an 'Off Week' mate. wink

Ya never acknowledged receipt of ya MFL 2 dvd ya queer mush !!! Az just assumed the postie's snaffled it biglaugh
Aye, yer not wrong there...

Arrived t'other day and was watched an'arl. Good stuff, cheers macca. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="cool.gif" />

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#51435 - Sun, 03 Oct 2004 05:00:00 Re: The videos
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sound wink

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#51436 - Sun, 03 Oct 2004 08:34:00 Re: The videos
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So, visions in Blue is missing from the DVD? Need I ask why? Is it on the video, I can't remember?

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#51437 - Sun, 03 Oct 2004 08:47:00 Re: The videos
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So, visions in Blue is missing from the DVD? Need I ask why? Is it on the video, I can't remember?
It isn't on the video...but I thought it was on the DVD! No? confused

The reason it's not on the video (and maybe the DVD if it's not on there) is because of...topless women!!! shock

Mrs. X

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#51438 - Sun, 03 Oct 2004 08:57:00 Re: The videos
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Originally posted by Mrs. X:

The reason it's not on the video (and maybe the DVD if it's not on there) is because of...topless women!!! shock
I thought as much but I thought there was an 'non-rude' version too? Maybe not. I can't remember much about the collection video because it's currently residing 140 miles away (although that probably sounds like next door to a resident of Canada wink )

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#51439 - Sun, 03 Oct 2004 09:05:00 Re: The videos
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I thought as much but I thought there was an 'non-rude' version too? Maybe not. I can't remember much about the collection video because it's currently residing 140 miles away (although that probably sounds like next door to a resident of Canada wink )
Er...no...not really...

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#51440 - Sun, 03 Oct 2004 09:05:00 Re: The videos
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Oh, OK.

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#51441 - Sun, 03 Oct 2004 11:21:00 Re: The videos
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Originally posted by Cerise:

Re: Father Clint, I think Danny means Clint Eastwood - there was a definite resemblance there!
Yes Cerise, Warren certainly had/has an air of Clint (Coogan's Bluff era) about him.

Quote:
Originally posted by Cerise:
Danny funnily enough, I'm scanning your remaining trannies right this second... I've booked Mon through Weds off work to get the CD up in the merch area (I'm so, so sorry it's taking so long!). I'm bloody determined to finish it this week!
By the way Cerise is referring to my transparencies and not any cross-dressing shenanigans, honest. Danny.

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#51442 - Sun, 03 Oct 2004 19:01:00 Re: The videos
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So, visions in Blue is missing from the DVD? Need I ask why? Is it on the video, I can't remember?
Well, my video has "Visions in blue" on it...although it's a very old version and I don't have the dvd. Also thought that there were two versions of the video, one having been banned for the "nudity-factor", as it were. I seem to remember the band described it as "tasteful" (was it Chris?). I don't feel it's offensive in any way at all btw. But then DWTIME was banned as well...at least on British television...

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#51443 - Mon, 04 Oct 2004 02:49:00 Re: The videos
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My copy of The Collection video has Visions (of soft focus bosoms) in Blue too. Its definitely NOT on DVD...so if anyone was selling their copy its definitely worth buying for that reason alone... Funnily enough I'll be flogging mine soon...*ahem*... evil

I had DWTIME taped off the telly years ago so it can't have been banned long...unless it was only shown after kiddies had gone to bed or summat... confused

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#51444 - Mon, 04 Oct 2004 03:00:00 Re: The videos
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But then DWTIME was banned as well...at least on British television...
Are you sure? I could have sworn I saw that video on TOTP at the time. I couldn't have seen it anywhere-else on UK terrestrial TV as I was living in Germany at the time and TOTP was the only music programme carried by the British Forces Broadcasting Sevice (or BFBS for the pad-brats and ex-squaddies amongst us...).

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#51445 - Mon, 04 Oct 2004 03:12:00 Re: The videos
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Aye, there was nee way that video was banned.
BANNED...wot for anyway ?? confused2

Az sure there was nee sign of Warrens 'Asian Babes Monthly' in the vid biglaugh

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#51446 - Mon, 04 Oct 2004 03:54:00 Re: The videos
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I didn't see it, unless it was cleverly hidden under his coat! smile Anyway...I'm wondering, too, how or why it could have been banned. What for? Too depressing? Because a child presumably perished in the nuclear blast? I mean, I know UK censors can be...er...unreasonable, but still...

As for "Visions In Blue" being tasteful...I think it's a lot more tasteful than some other videos of that time! ("Girls On Film" uncensored, anyone?) I don't find it offensive at all. Just that the toplessness had nothing to do with the song itself.

Mrs. X

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#51447 - Mon, 04 Oct 2004 06:12:00 Re: The videos
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DWTIME banned? Not as far as I'm aware. bemused Visions in Blue was certainly on early copies of the video.

The Collection DVD surprised us when it came out, alas we had nothing to do with it. EMI decided not to include Visions in Blue as they deemed the topless girls to be (and I quote) "of an indeterminate age" (the PC age we live in now). They seemed rather embarrassed when we pointed out that a 'clean' version had been created for kids' TV and was surely in the vaults (same with Vienna of course, the spider and some 'scary costume' party scenes were removed). And of course, the renaming of WCTD was unforgiveable. They have said that the previous version of the DVD was to 'test the water' and that it may get another re-release, in which case we would be involved to make sure no further balls-ups occurred. Whether this ever happens is another matter, but in general EMI are very good and quite happy to enlist outside help to ensure projects are spot-on.

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#51448 - Mon, 04 Oct 2004 06:22:00 Re: The videos
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Flip - shameless, shameless!

Danny - hee hee hee! Yes, no cross-dressing involved. not that I've seen on the trannies (slides!) so far, anyhow. Just a dodgy outfit or two! wink

CP - the pics will appear in a special Messengers area on the site, along with further MP3 downloads and suchlike, for purchasers of the lbum. That'll be up in the new merch area. This week, this week! Even if it kills me! smile

I shelled out some readies over the weekend on some fantastic software for the site that, providing I can get it to work, will transform the place - you'll be seeing new content every week. How shocking will that be?!! In theory, it will also allow visitors to add their own content (photos, ads, articles, press clippings, pics of badges, wallpapers, PDFs, MP3s, MIDI files etc). Hoo boy.

I'm aiming to install and test it tomorrow, keep your fingers crossed...

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#51449 - Mon, 04 Oct 2004 08:47:00 Re: The videos
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But then DWTIME was banned as well...at least on British television...
No way. I definitely saw it and, erm, taped it, at the time.

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#51450 - Mon, 04 Oct 2004 11:27:00 Re: The videos
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Excellent idea for a thread, Nils. Ultravox's videos have always been of very particular interest to me, but I shall save you all from my verbose commentaries on each of them lol.

I have the Japanese import video version of "The Collection," and indeed the uncensored "Visions in Blue" is included. While it always baffled me why they went that route with the video for this song, I still find it quite fascinating and far from offensive. Don't have the DVD version yet, but it's on my "Christmas Wish List". smile I believe someone mentioned that there is a "censored" version of this video. Can anyone enlighten and elaborate as to its content? Did they merely edit out the nude scenes or is it an entirely different video/theme?

As for DWTIME, I never heard that it was banned. I saw it quite a few times, and like our dear Flip also taped it off telly many moons ago. I can't imagine how such a 'rumour' started that it was banned...other than perhaps due to the political state of the world at that time (even now nervouslaugh He does indeed wear it well...("Hey Ho...") wink

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#51451 - Mon, 04 Oct 2004 18:18:00 Re: The videos
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the renaming of WCTD was unforgiveable.
confused What was it renamed to?

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#51452 - Mon, 04 Oct 2004 18:35:00 Re: The videos
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We Only Came to Dance.

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#51453 - Mon, 04 Oct 2004 18:38:00 Re: The videos
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Yes, I saw the DWTIME video quite a few times too. I remember a lot of hoo-ha about mothers calling the BBC to say how traumatised their children had been (I also remember a magazine interview at the time entitled "Armageddon Out of Here"), but I don't recall it being banned. All the fuss was weird really, people seemed to assume it was a nuclear war thing - but it wasn't, it was a nuclear power station malfunction in the vid...

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#51454 - Mon, 04 Oct 2004 18:54:00 Re: The videos
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We Only Came to Dance.
Do I need to ask why it was renamed?

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#51455 - Mon, 04 Oct 2004 19:04:00 Re: The videos
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Quote:
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[b]We Only Came to Dance.
Do I need to ask why it was renamed?[/b]
There was no reason for renaming the track - it was just a mistake on the part of whoever put the artwork together... frown

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#51456 - Mon, 04 Oct 2004 21:09:00 Re: The videos
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Sloppy proofreading. I mean, they obviously just transferred all the video's from VHS and then knocked out Visions In Blue. They kept the same artwork, but managed to add an extra word into the song title. How does that happen?

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#51457 - Mon, 04 Oct 2004 21:20:00 Re: The videos
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Better than it being renamed "the flogging a dead horse 4th single off the album"... laugh

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#51458 - Mon, 04 Oct 2004 22:10:00 Re: The videos
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There was no reason for renaming the track - it was just a mistake on the part of whoever put the artwork together...
OK, cheers.

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#51459 - Mon, 04 Oct 2004 23:12:00 Re: The videos
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Yet I do have to admit the one aspect of this video that singularly forefronts in my memory is Mr. Cann as "Father Clint" stopping to assist the fallen woman (literally speaking wink ). Something about a man in priest garb... nervouslaugh He does indeed wear it well...("Hey Ho...") wink

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Something about a man in uniform as well... wink nutjob

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#51460 - Tue, 05 Oct 2004 04:02:00 Re: The videos
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I wonder why they stopped working with Russel? Was it because Midge and Chris decided to try their hands in directing or what?
There's a huge difference between the first 4 viddies (am I right?) done by RM and the following. RM's clips are notoriously famous for their abstract ideas... I still don't get Thin Wall :rolleyes: but I love the video nonetheless.

Oh, and is there a chance to see that 'priest' pic online? :p

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#51461 - Tue, 05 Oct 2004 04:20:00 Re: The videos
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I bought The Collection on video back in the late 80s with Visions In Blue on it. Is it me or do those first two girls bathing each other look dangerously young? Still I thought it was very well done and erotic.
Anyway I think you can find bootleg copies if you look hard enough.

I remember reading an interview with Chris and Midge years ago and they said that Russel Mulcahy made the statement - "you don't really need me anymore do you?", noticing that Midge and Chris were doing fine by themselves.

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#51462 - Tue, 05 Oct 2004 05:49:00 Re: The videos
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Sylvia - it's one of the first pics we'll put in the new Gallery this week (if I can get the new software to work!). wink

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#51463 - Tue, 05 Oct 2004 06:12:00 Re: The videos
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They seemed rather embarrassed when we pointed out that a 'clean' version had been created for kids' TV and was surely in the vaults (same with Vienna of course, the spider and some 'scary costume' party scenes were removed). And of course, the renaming of WCTD was unforgiveable. They have said that the previous version of the DVD was to 'test the water' and that it may get another re-release, in which case we would be involved to make sure no further balls-ups occurred. Whether this ever happens is another matter, but in general EMI are very good and quite happy to enlist outside help to ensure projects are spot-on.
I don't mean to be an instigator, (and correct me if I'm wrong) but you guys were involved with a couple of projects recently which were a bit mucked up in themselves. Namely the monophonic release of Little Orphans and the Once upon a Time in America album which cites two completely inaccurate appearances as its source. (See: http://www.Ultravox.org.uk/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t=000056 )

What's my point? I don't know, just that we all make mistakes. It seems to me that a company should have a group of 20 or 30 hardcore fans of any particular artist or group on standby who can proofread and nitpick (which we fans love to do) their products before going into production (like beta testers). Very simple to do with the Internet, and you know there would be fans lining up to offer their services free of charge.

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#51464 - Tue, 05 Oct 2004 07:02:00 Re: The videos
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Nope, we had absolutely nothing at all to do with Once Upon a Time in America (besides design Midge's Environment label logo), that was all Midge and Berenice, as is all new stuff that's now released through MidgeUre.com (CDs, tour progs, merch etc). We did used to be involved but regrettably find ourselves with much less time to spare these days! We DID design the artwork for Little Orphans a couple of years ago, but had nothing at all to do with the sound. Whereas with projects such as the remastered re-release of Monument where we requested that two additional tracks were mixed into their correct places in the show - yes, we were responsible for checking sound on that one and Abbey Road did a fantastic job of matching the two sources. We also received repertoire discs to check on all the other EMI Gold releases we did (both Ultravox and Midge solo), we looked at Rage in Eden particularly closely as Billy wanted us to pull in more of the pulse at the beginning of The Voice - but we didn't have that on Midge's own "website release only" CDs. Limited budget, I would guess.

I'm not saying we're perfect - we're not, there are things we would go back and tweak on many of the EMI Gold releases we were responsible for - but we're probably more nitpicky than most record label art departments, LOL! wink

I think EMI are probably one the of the first record companies to go to fans to design sleeves and put projects together (I could be wrong!), but I guess we had the advantage that I'm a Graphic Designer by trade, and Rob has a near photographic memory for facts and figures. Bless!

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#51465 - Tue, 05 Oct 2004 16:47:00 Re: The videos
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Going back to the videos (sorry Nils!), The Thin Wall was definitely my favourite. Abstract and bizarre, it was wonderful. laugh

Incidentally, if we can't get permission to have small versions of the videos on this site (and to be honest, we are fairly unlikely to be able to get permission), would everyone like to at least see screen grabs from them? Or would that be of no use to man nor beast?

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#51466 - Tue, 05 Oct 2004 18:00:00 Re: The videos
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Going back to the videos (sorry Nils!), The Thin Wall was definitely my favourite. Abstract and bizarre, it was wonderful.
No problem. I'm happy it wasn't me this time who went off topic wink .

Yes, "The Thin Wall" and "The Voice" are (in my opinion) the best videos ever (not just Ultravox). "Hymn" and DWTIME are also very good, but I like Mulcahy's clips a bit more.

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Incidentally, if we can't get permission to have small versions of the videos on this site (and to be honest, we are fairly unlikely to be able to get permission), would everyone like to at least see screen grabs from them? Or would that be of no use to man nor beast?
Of course! A wallpaper of the beginning of "Vienna" with the horse or the band in the mist for example would be great! Or the four doors that open in "Hymn". Or the "ghost" that moves from right to left in "The Thin Wall". The monument at the end of "Reap the Wild Wind".

Maybe we can see some screen graps of videos that are not on the Collection? I heard that "Same old Story" has a clip, too? The video of "All Fall Down" was not my taste.
By the way: if there will be a new collection, where You may be involved, is it possible to insert all Ultravox videoclips there?

What about solo works like "After a Fashion" (okay, not really solo) or "No Regrets"? I also like the videos of "He's a liquid" and "Underpass" by John Foxx.

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#51467 - Tue, 05 Oct 2004 18:39:00 Re: The videos
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...would everyone like to at least see screen grabs from them? Or would that be of no use to man nor beast?
I'd be keen on that, Cerise. It would look cool as an entire page unto itself.

Here are some suggestions:

Passing Strangers: The guys standing in a group singing... eh, miming.

Vienna: I still like the final shot; the four of them walking towards the Luegerkirche as the colour comes up on the sunset. Nice ending...

The Thin Wall: The three guys beckoning to Midge across the rubber, tiled floor... perhaps?

The Voice: The fade-out near the end which leaves the four guys standing on that ridge-crest... or one of the studio shots showing all four of them.

Reap The Wild Wind: Yeah, probably the walking towards the camera with the backlit Monument at the end... or maybe a shot from the airfield scene.

Hymn: Yes, Nils' "four doors" scene suggestion is probably the only one which actually shows the four of them together, is it?

Visions In Blue: I'll let someone else suggest that one... shocked

We (Only wink ) Came To Dance: One of the studio shots showing all four of them...

One Small Day: Yeah, baby! It has to be one of the 'performance' within the Callanish III circle... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="cool.gif" />

Dancing With Tears In My Eyes: Since there isn't really one shot which shows all of the guys together, perhaps a shot which is deemed symbolic of the whole video?

Lament: It has to be the bare-arse-under-the-kilt shot... :rolleyes:

Love's Great Adventure: The very last shot where they all jump in the air!

Same Old Story: I've never seen it!

All Fall Down: The 'dead' people and their spilled-blood forming the continents of the world... kind of symbolises the 'life' of the band at that stage. <img border="0" alt="[Sniffles]" title="" src="graemlins/sniffles.gif" />

All In One Day: Was there a video made?

I think it would be a cool idea, Cerise. Perhaps clicking on the image could link to info' about each video... if the guys would be happy to contribute notes (if they haven't already).

Regards...

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#51468 - Tue, 05 Oct 2004 20:40:00 Re: The videos
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Vienna: I still like the final shot; the four of them walking towards the Luegerkirche as the colour comes up on the sunset.
Oh yes, that would be a great pic!

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Visions In Blue: I'll let someone else suggest that one... shocked
Perhaps one of the few "stage scenes" from the Monument-tour that appear in the video. They are great (the only scenes I like in that video).

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