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#44989 - Fri, 04 Mar 2005 03:32:00 What type of synthesizer was used by Ultravox and Visage?
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What type of synthesizer was used by Visage in the song Damned Dont Cry? Does anyone have the midi to this song? Does anyone know what type of synthesizer were used by Ultravox? Thanks Tracy

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#44990 - Sat, 05 Mar 2005 00:59:00 Re: What type of synthesizer was used by Ultravox and Visage?
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I was in a band at the time (early 80's), and my mate our keyboardist said he used the Roland SH09 because Ultravox did (ie Billy Currie).

Grant

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#44991 - Sat, 05 Mar 2005 01:29:00 Re: What type of synthesizer was used by Ultravox and Visage?
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I have no idea what synth was used in "The Damned don't cry", but I have never read anything about Ultravox using a SH-09. Of course this doesn't mean they didn't use it, but it was not on stage on any videoclip I have seen.

Maybe that synth was played by Visage's other keyboarder, Dave Formula from Magazine?

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#44992 - Sat, 05 Mar 2005 02:41:00 Re: What type of synthesizer was used by Ultravox and Visage?
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Never ever seen mention of a SH-09 on an Ultravox gear list - being a comparatively weedy 1 oscillator entry level jobby it seems unlikely. For any solos Billy would have used his ARP Odyssey, but there would have been several synths in use on the Visage song. Ultravox at the time mainly used the ARP, Yamaha SS30s, Minimoogs for bass and I'm sure I've seen a gear list with a Yamaha CS30 in the early 80s too. But that's probably only a sample of what they used.

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#44993 - Sat, 05 Mar 2005 02:56:00 Re: What type of synthesizer was used by Ultravox and Visage?
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Flip and others, thank you. If anyone had to guess what hardware created the background or main sound that is hear in Damned Dont Cry, what would everyone yes? Thanks Trace

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#44994 - Sat, 05 Mar 2005 06:58:00 Re: What type of synthesizer was used by Ultravox and Visage?
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Hi Plefkow!

To me it certainly sounds like the PPG Wave 2.2.
It doesn`t sound like the Arp or MiniMoog
at all I think (or could it be the Yamaha GS1?).
I once programmed a similar sound on a Korg Wavestation EX, but if you really want that sound
BUY BUY BUY a Waldorf MicroWave 1 (NOT the 2 or the XT)- with analogue filters (the BEST Ive ever heard!!!).

All the best
Jesper

PS: I LOVE the sounds and on that track too!!!
Its a FANTASTIC album!!!

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#44995 - Sat, 05 Mar 2005 07:03:00 Re: What type of synthesizer was used by Ultravox and Visage?
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PSS: I seem to remember that I once read that
Visage (and Ultravox...Billy and Midge) actually
got the very first PPG Wave 2`s!!!
And Im completely 100% sure that Ive read that they used the PPG Wave 2.2 as one of the main synths (perhaps THE main synth) on The Anvil-album!

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#44996 - Sat, 05 Mar 2005 07:15:00 Re: What type of synthesizer was used by Ultravox and Visage?
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PSSS: The Waldorf MicroWave 1 (and the other MicroWave`s) was the re-designed PPG Wave 2.3
back then - when PPG went down frown Just in case you didn`t know wink

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#44997 - Sat, 05 Mar 2005 07:56:00 Re: What type of synthesizer was used by Ultravox and Visage?
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As synths were split across Billy and Dave Formula, either of them could have been responsible for any of the sounds I guess - don't know what Dave Formula's regular set up was at the time.

If you're talking about the staccato sound at the beginning, they used to send a clock pulse from a custom built trigger generator into the synth making the sound to get the timing so mechanical, I think...dunno what that particular synth is though - Jesper, you probably know more than me there. smile

I've no idea if Minimoogs were used in Visage ever - I just meant Ultravox used them. smile

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#44998 - Sat, 05 Mar 2005 08:55:00 Re: What type of synthesizer was used by Ultravox and Visage?
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Hi Flip smile
Ehhhm....I don`t know either - but I would really
like to know how they did it!!!
There`s also some sort of effect on the "rhytm-
synth"...delay and/or some sort of vocoder I think.
And Oh YES...Visage used the MiniMoog...just listen to the WONDERFUL bass-synth in Move Up smile
All The Best
Jesper

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#44999 - Sat, 05 Mar 2005 09:12:00 Re: What type of synthesizer was used by Ultravox and Visage?
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well well well...I can`t sleep bemused smile
Perhaps it`s not the PPG doing the "rhytm-synth"
after all - thinking more and more about it, Im
pretty sure that the secret in this particular
sound is the way it`s treated with effect.
I don`t know what they used - but it`s a filter of some sort - something like the Moogerfooger
MuRF MF-105 or perhaps a vocoder...hmmmm....
http://www.moogmusic.com/detail.php?main_product_id=111

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#45000 - Tue, 08 Mar 2005 03:27:00 Re: What type of synthesizer was used by Ultravox and Visage?
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It really sounds a bit like a "vocoded" sound

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