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#3471 - Wed, 26 Jul 2006 18:34:00 Release dates question
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I understand that Shifting City and Cathedral Oceans were both released in the same year but was it 1995 or 1997?

I seem to think my CDs have 1995 on the packaging, but I read recently that they came out in '97.

Enlighten me anyone?

It's a really geeky question, I know!!

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#3472 - Wed, 26 Jul 2006 19:15:00 Re: Release dates question
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Originally posted by Alex S:
I understand that Shifting City and Cathedral Oceans were both released in the same year but was it 1995 or 1997?

I seem to think my CDs have 1995 on the packaging, but I read recently that they came out in '97.

Enlighten me anyone?

It's a really geeky question, I know!!
The tracks which they contain were published in 1995, but the albums were both released on the 24th of March 1997. wink

Hope that this helps...

Rob

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#3473 - Wed, 26 Jul 2006 19:17:00 Re: Release dates question
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Hi Alex,

All the release date information is included within the Discography section of the excellent and informative Metamatic website.

Regards

EG

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#3474 - Wed, 26 Jul 2006 19:18:00 Re: Release dates question
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Thanks Rob

Next question which is the correct cover for the original Exotour EP?


or

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#3475 - Wed, 26 Jul 2006 19:31:00 Re: Release dates question
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Originally posted by Alex S:
Thanks Rob

Next question which is the correct cover for the original Exotour EP?


or
Alex

Looking on my CD rack shows the top 1 is the Exotour album while the bottom one is the Exotour EP version.

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#3476 - Wed, 26 Jul 2006 19:41:00 Re: Release dates question
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Thanks Flip!

I think that's it for today's geeky fan questions..... actually I'm going over some things on John's page on the Rate Your Music website made some corrections, and I wanted to upload the correct artwork for the Exotour EP. Unfortunately those versions I posted are the biggest ones I could find online.

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#3477 - Wed, 26 Jul 2006 19:57:00 Re: Release dates question
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No probs Alex - have you got a link to that? Never heard of that website.

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#3478 - Wed, 26 Jul 2006 20:16:00 Re: Release dates question
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Seems to be this one Flip...

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#3479 - Wed, 26 Jul 2006 20:35:00 Re: Release dates question
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Thanks EG. smile

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#3480 - Wed, 26 Jul 2006 21:25:00 Re: Release dates question
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Alex - you had only to ask (we designed them). Afraid the only 98 cover image I have handy right now is signed, but if you'd like it sans sigs, I can turf out the artwork later - just let me know.

Cheers,
Cerise.




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#3481 - Wed, 26 Jul 2006 21:38:00 Re: Release dates question
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The cover of the album version looks especailly classy - very "distinguished".

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#3482 - Wed, 26 Jul 2006 21:46:00 Re: Release dates question
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Thanks Cerise!

Y'know, that's the first time I've seen John's signature!

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#3483 - Wed, 26 Jul 2006 21:59:00 Re: Release dates question
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No probs Alex - have you got a link to that? Never heard of that website.
Here's my page on RYM:
http://rateyourmusic.com/~AlexS

If you click on reviews and artists or latest, you'll see I've rated all of John's albums to my taste.

It's a good site.

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#3484 - Wed, 26 Jul 2006 22:07:00 Re: Release dates question
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Ta! laugh Crikey - when do you find the time?!! I'm tempted to do it but I know full well I'd never get chance to do much with it (like my MySpace page).

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#3485 - Wed, 26 Jul 2006 22:28:00 Re: Release dates question
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Ta! laugh Crikey - when do you find the time?!! I'm tempted to do it but I know full well I'd never get chance to do much with it (like my MySpace page).
I wrote most of them last year when I wasn't on here as much!
I've been revising a lot of the reviews lately, mostly John's stuff.

I just do it while I'm supposed to be working! laugh

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#3486 - Thu, 27 Jul 2006 02:16:00 Re: Release dates question
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John looks younger than Louis in that watercolour wink

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#3487 - Thu, 27 Jul 2006 02:51:00 Re: Release dates question
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There's something strange going on with John's hair...

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#3488 - Thu, 27 Jul 2006 03:21:00 Re: Release dates question
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There's something strange going on with John's hair...
Yeah...

1. There's more than there is now...
2. it's blonde...ish
3. He's got an infestation of strange writing in it!

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#3489 - Sat, 29 Jul 2006 00:39:00 Re: Release dates question
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Those two original covers were really good, especially the second one.

Then we got this:



Somebody wants shooting for that typography!!

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#3490 - Sat, 29 Jul 2006 03:06:00 Re: Release dates question
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Err, what typography? confused

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#3491 - Sun, 30 Jul 2006 05:28:00 Re: Release dates question
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lovely - looks like it was done with a dodgy 1970's dymo label printer
I'm sure I've got one somewhere - but before you slap me, it wasn't me who did the "typography" for this album

I've something here for the designer of that album cover - arnie

now please DON'T do it again! yuk

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#3492 - Sun, 30 Jul 2006 07:53:00 Re: Release dates question
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I'm not seeing any image in Alex's post at all??? confused

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#3493 - Sun, 30 Jul 2006 21:09:00 Re: Release dates question
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It was there honest. It's gone now!

I just wish that reissue had useed one of Cerises' great original covers.

I'll have to print one out and sellotape it over the box...

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#3494 - Thu, 03 Aug 2006 17:49:00 Re: Release dates question
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Cerise - do you have scans of the back and inner sleeve artwork of the Exotour CDs?
I'd love to see them (in a geeky, designery, fanatical way!).

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#3495 - Thu, 03 Aug 2006 18:11:00 Re: Release dates question
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Alex - Rob's going to drop you a line. wink

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#3496 - Thu, 03 Aug 2006 18:15:00 Re: Release dates question
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Super! smile

I was delayed in getting to work this morning, but it did allow me to play all of the Exotour album, which is something I rarely have time to do. I normally only get half way through it, so I'd forgotten about just how fantastic the Shifting City tracks are. The Noise, An Ocean We Can Breathe, Through My Sleeping and the title track all sound so fresh.

And I still love the version of This City. Great track!
There's nothing like rediscovering stuff like this! smile

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#3497 - Thu, 03 Aug 2006 19:53:00 Re: Release dates question
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Yeah - I'll never forget the excitement of finding a "new John Foxx album" in a record shop in Brighton in early 1997, and taking it home and putting it on and just being like "WOW! This is actually GOOD and CONTEMPORARY SOUNDING which still being DECENT ANALOG SYNTH STUFF!" when the Noise came on.

Cos the previous 7 years or so had seen numerous "comeback albums" by bands like OMD, Gary Numan, the Human League etc etc - and to be honest, although I tried to like them, they basically all were a bit WICK - full of crap digital DX7 and Korg M1 sounds and just still sounding "dated" and like they were struggling to fit in in the 1990s...
...wheras I though John came back on Shifting City sounding like he'd thoroughly understood all the dance music since 1988 and had sharpened up his beats and sounds, and managed to build a new set of PROPER SONGS which used all that new instrumentation and style of arrangements, with a proper continuity back through to Metamatic.

"Through My Sleeping" and "An Ocean we can Breath" are just splendid songs, wonderful melodies.

The one I think's been ever so neglected is "HERE WE GO", it's a beautiful ambient pop song, lovely lyrics about letting yourself fade into the background with equanimity yet still having a quiet confidence in your own roots and what you should be doing - seemed to perfectly describe the route John took to produce that album!
Wish he'd play that song live!

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#3498 - Thu, 03 Aug 2006 20:14:00 Re: Release dates question
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I think he did pick the strongest songs from Shifting City to do on Exotour, but there are a few great songs like Here We go or Forgotten Years, that seem, well, forgotten.

I was never much of a fan of the sparse, tinny production of Shifting City, and the versions on Exotour were really beefed up and given more life - imagine how the whole album would sound in the Exotour style!

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#3499 - Thu, 03 Aug 2006 20:46:00 Re: Release dates question
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well... I was never that keen on the "trip-hop" tracks on side 2 of Shifting City (too much Portishead, I think...)

"Ocean we can breath" and especially "Through My Sleep" aren't tinny, they're lush! LOL

I like the minimalism of The Noise, Crash, Here We Go etc...

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#3500 - Thu, 03 Aug 2006 21:02:00 Re: Release dates question
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I do prefer the original versions of An Ocean... and Through My Sleeping I think the CD just suffers a bit from low sound level, compared to the others.

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#3501 - Thu, 03 Aug 2006 21:34:00 Re: Release dates question
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I listened to Shifting city last night. I hadn't heard it for a long time. I'm not one for going into the finer points or the technical side of things. I like what I like and thats it but I did notice how I had to turn the volume up compared against Johns recent releases just to give it some UMPH (I did have headphones on) and it was a bit tinny. Regardless there are some very good songs on it especially Shifting city (great lyrics) The Noise and an Ocean we can Breathe. For me the weakest track as to be Concrete, Bulletproof Invisable.
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#3502 - Thu, 03 Aug 2006 23:05:00 Re: Release dates question
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I do prefer the original versions of An Ocean... and Through My Sleeping I think the CD just suffers a bit from low sound level, compared to the others.
Then turn the volume up on your stereo! laugh

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#3503 - Thu, 03 Aug 2006 23:59:00 Re: Release dates question
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Although I haven't played either in a while I seem to remember thinking that some of the Exotour tracks on the Golden Section/ Exotour release had been "beefed-up" a little. I'm sure there was a sparser and more basic sound on the original 1997 disc. Did anyone else find this too?

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#3504 - Thu, 06 May 2010 18:04:00 Re: Release dates question
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Originally posted by Cerise:
Alex - you had only to ask (we designed them). Afraid the only 98 cover image I have handy right now is signed, but if you'd like it sans sigs, I can turf out the artwork later - just let me know.

Cheers,
Cerise.



You occasionally come across copies of the '97 Exotour EP which look authentic but aren't actually numbered. Does anyone know if these are genuine copies, because if they're bootlegs then they're extremely well made ones!

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