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#2818 - Fri, 05 Nov 2004 17:58:00 Question of the morning - Underpass/Overpass
Alex S Pass level: Access All Areas Registered: Thu, 04 Nov 2004 20:00:00 Posts: 924 Loc: Sheffield, UK	Does anybody know why Underpass was originally called Overpass? (not that it makes a great deal of difference, I'm just curious!)
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#2819 - Fri, 05 Nov 2004 18:05:00 Re: Question of the morning - Underpass/Overpass
Luca Pass level: Green Room Registered: Wed, 28 May 2003 20:00:00 Posts: 197 Loc: Italy	I always thought that "Underpass" was the original title, while "Overpass" was meant to signify a more beefed-up version... Have you got any references to this?
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#2820 - Fri, 05 Nov 2004 18:21:00 Re: Question of the morning - Underpass/Overpass
Alex S Pass level: Access All Areas Registered: Thu, 04 Nov 2004 20:00:00 Posts: 924 Loc: Sheffield, UK	I'm sure it's in the notes in the booklet of last year's Omnidelic Exotour / Golden Section tour reissue. There's a short description on one of the pages of a selection of songs.
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#2821 - Fri, 05 Nov 2004 21:19:00 Re: Question of the morning - Underpass/Overpass
birdsong Pass level: Access All Areas Registered: Fri, 08 Oct 2004 20:00:00 Posts: 640 Loc: southampton	I'm reading the Atrocity Exhibition again at the moment - Metamatic is a veritable soundtrack to this wonderful book!!! You do get a very different view from "under" of course, rather than "over". It could just be a careful choice of words. By using "underpass" ( a more 'English' word) there is a suggestion of letting things go by overhead without being part of it and no-one would know you were there. You'd be more aware too of the sounds, the concrete, the automobiles. Am I rambling...?
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#2822 - Fri, 05 Nov 2004 23:52:00 Re: Question of the morning - Underpass/Overpass
Luca Pass level: Green Room Registered: Wed, 28 May 2003 20:00:00 Posts: 197 Loc: Italy	Quote: Originally posted by Alex S: I'm sure it's in the notes in the booklet of last year's Omnidelic Exotour / Golden Section tour reissue. There's a short description on one of the pages of a selection of songs. That's why I should buy that digipack too! Being the proud owner of an Exotour original and not caring much about live recordings I didn't bother to buy that double CD. But I forgot how sometimes JF liner notes can be very enlightening... the notes to "Assembly" are the best concise story of contemporary pop music I ever read.
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#2823 - Sat, 06 Nov 2004 00:31:00 Re: Question of the morning - Underpass/Overpass
Herbert the turbot Pass level: Green Room Registered: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:00:00 Posts: 107 Loc: Barnsley	"Underpass" was actually originally called "Underpants" and concerned John's quest for snugly fitting undergarments. Likewise 'The Garden' was originally called 'The Garter'....
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#2824 - Sat, 06 Nov 2004 00:44:00 Re: Question of the morning - Underpass/Overpass
Mrs. X Pass level: Access All Areas Registered: Tue, 01 Jun 2004 20:00:00 Posts: 2664 Loc: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada	Quote: Originally posted by Herbert the turbot: "Underpass" was actually originally called "Underpants" and concerned John's quest for snugly fitting undergarments. Likewise 'The Garden' was originally called 'The Garter'....
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#2825 - Sat, 06 Nov 2004 03:38:00 Re: Question of the morning - Underpass/Overpass
alles klar Pass level: Access All Areas Registered: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 20:00:00 Posts: 1240 Loc: London	Quote: Originally posted by Herbert the turbot: "Underpass" was actually originally called "Underpants" and concerned John's quest for snugly fitting undergarments. Likewise 'The Garden' was originally called 'The Garter'.... A bit like Midge singing about his aversion to ice cream chocolate - 'This means nothing to me - a Viennetta' Boom boom
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#2826 - Sat, 06 Nov 2004 03:58:00 Re: Question of the morning - Underpass/Overpass
Mrs. X Pass level: Access All Areas Registered: Tue, 01 Jun 2004 20:00:00 Posts: 2664 Loc: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada	Ohhhhhhh...Viennetta.... Mrs. X
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#2827 - Sat, 06 Nov 2004 04:04:00 Re: Question of the morning - Underpass/Overpass
Alex S Pass level: Access All Areas Registered: Thu, 04 Nov 2004 20:00:00 Posts: 924 Loc: Sheffield, UK	Here's John's quote from the booklet: "Overpass. This was the original title. How I felt when I came back from the war"
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#2828 - Sat, 06 Nov 2004 05:47:00 Re: Question of the morning - Underpass/Overpass
Nils Pass level: Access All Areas Registered: Sun, 01 Sep 2002 20:00:00 Posts: 1535 Loc: Bremen, Germany	Interesting! Which war is he talking about?
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#2829 - Sat, 06 Nov 2004 07:27:00 Re: Question of the morning - Underpass/Overpass
Flip Martian Pass level: Access All Areas Registered: Sat, 29 Jun 2002 20:00:00 Posts: 4753 Loc: Here	1st World War probably (that's why John keeps his birthdate secret...)
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#2830 - Sat, 06 Nov 2004 07:30:00 Re: Question of the morning - Underpass/Overpass
Mrs. X Pass level: Access All Areas Registered: Tue, 01 Jun 2004 20:00:00 Posts: 2664 Loc: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada	Or World War II would put him up there as well! (But he can't be that old, can he??) Mrs. X
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#2831 - Sat, 06 Nov 2004 07:38:00 Re: Question of the morning - Underpass/Overpass
Flip Martian Pass level: Access All Areas Registered: Sat, 29 Jun 2002 20:00:00 Posts: 4753 Loc: Here	You should see him without his makeup on...
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#2832 - Sat, 06 Nov 2004 08:25:00 Re: Question of the morning - Underpass/Overpass
CONNY'S PIG Pass level: Access All Areas Registered: Sun, 03 Aug 2003 20:00:00 Posts: 3398 Loc: Sunderland	Oh aye Flip, what you been up to then ??
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#2833 - Sat, 06 Nov 2004 09:02:00 Re: Question of the morning - Underpass/Overpass
Si_W Pass level: Access All Areas Registered: Sat, 13 Jul 2002 20:00:00 Posts: 4056 Loc: UK	Quote: Originally posted by Nils: Interesting! Which war is he talking about? He'd been to 'Nham, Peckenham. I'll get me coat...
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#2834 - Sat, 06 Nov 2004 09:21:00 Re: Question of the morning - Underpass/Overpass
Mrs. X Pass level: Access All Areas Registered: Tue, 01 Jun 2004 20:00:00 Posts: 2664 Loc: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada	Quote: Originally posted by Flip Martian: You should see him without his makeup on... Or maybe he's had plastic surgery! Or...there's a lot of things that modern technology can do to a photo these days... Mrs. X
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#2835 - Sat, 06 Nov 2004 21:40:00 Re: Question of the morning - Underpass/Overpass
Meriseth Pass level: Press Registered: Sat, 29 Jun 2002 20:00:00 Posts: 61 Loc: Genoa Italy	Quote: Originally posted by Mrs. X: Quote: Originally posted by Flip Martian: [b]You should see him without his makeup on... Or maybe he's had plastic surgery! Or...there's a lot of things that modern technology can do to a photo these days... Mrs. X[/b] What about that old portrait in the attic, Dorian? By the way... John once told me he was born in 1950... True lie? Meriseth
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#2836 - Sat, 06 Nov 2004 21:45:00 Re: Question of the morning - Underpass/Overpass
Mrs. X Pass level: Access All Areas Registered: Tue, 01 Jun 2004 20:00:00 Posts: 2664 Loc: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada	Quote: Originally posted by Meriseth: What about that old portrait in the attic, Dorian? By the way... John once told me he was born in 1950... True lie? Meriseth I don't think anyone really knows for sure! In fact, there's an entire thread on the subject of John's age here . Mrs. X
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#2837 - Tue, 09 Nov 2004 23:59:00 Re: Question of the morning - Underpass/Overpass
Herbert the turbot Pass level: Green Room Registered: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:00:00 Posts: 107 Loc: Barnsley	"Standing in the shop Stroking my thighs Lifting up the Y-fronts Nothing in my size Underpants! (etc)" Would anyone else with too much time on their hands like to finish off the lyric?
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#2838 - Wed, 10 Nov 2004 00:06:00 Re: Question of the morning - Underpass/Overpass
Mrs. X Pass level: Access All Areas Registered: Tue, 01 Jun 2004 20:00:00 Posts: 2664 Loc: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada	Quote: Originally posted by Herbert the turbot: "Standing in the shop Stroking my thighs Lifting up the Y-fronts Nothing in my size Underpants! (etc)" Would anyone else with too much time on their hands like to finish off the lyric? Give me a bit of time. I'm sure I could come up with something, hopefully! Mrs. X
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#2839 - Wed, 10 Nov 2004 00:36:00 Re: Question of the morning - Underpass/Overpass
Mrs. X Pass level: Access All Areas Registered: Tue, 01 Jun 2004 20:00:00 Posts: 2664 Loc: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada	Told you I had lots of time on my hands! I felt inspired and came up with this (includes the first verse already done): Standing in the shop Stroking my thighs Lifting up the Y-fronts Nothing in my size Underpants! Underpants! Well, I used to wear boxers Now they're all worn Wasn't it some...thing... They warmed somebody's bum Underpants! Underpants! Scouring through the britches I think I like those They're comfy at the same...time... Leg, leg, bum Underpants! Underpants! Snuggly on my ass now Crumpled on the floor They'll last for years...now... Leg, leg, bum Leg, leg, bum Leg, leg, bum Leg, leg, bum Leg, leg... Underpants! Underpants! Underpants! Underpants! (repeat to fade) What do you think?? Mrs. X
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#2840 - Wed, 10 Nov 2004 01:40:00 Re: Question of the morning - Underpass/Overpass
A Nice Piece of Cheese Pass level: Press Registered: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 20:00:00 Posts: 45 Loc: UK	URQUARKLE WILL RETURN!!!
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#2841 - Wed, 10 Nov 2004 01:41:00 Re: Question of the morning - Underpass/Overpass
METAL BEAT Pass level: Access All Areas Registered: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 20:00:00 Posts: 825 Loc: Watford	Mrs X Love the lyric's. Funniest thing I read for A LONG TIME. I wonder if John has an opinion. Regards Peter
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#2842 - Wed, 10 Nov 2004 01:42:00 Re: Question of the morning - Underpass/Overpass
A Nice Piece of Cheese Pass level: Press Registered: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 20:00:00 Posts: 45 Loc: UK	Overpass was used as a title because old Dennis got peeeeeed off with people shouting underpants at live concerts.....
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#2843 - Wed, 10 Nov 2004 02:52:00 Re: Question of the morning - Underpass/Overpass
Mrs. X Pass level: Access All Areas Registered: Tue, 01 Jun 2004 20:00:00 Posts: 2664 Loc: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada	Quote: Originally posted by METAL BEAT: Mrs X Love the lyric's. Funniest thing I read for A LONG TIME. I wonder if John has an opinion. Regards Peter Thank you, Mr. Beat! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="cool.gif" /> It was a bit TOUCH & GO, but I managed to come up with something that I thought was rather good. If John were to look at this, and the only post he ever made was to comment on my little parody, I'd be honoured. I'd hope he'd like it! Mrs. X
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#2844 - Wed, 10 Nov 2004 03:03:00 Re: Question of the morning - Underpass/Overpass
Cerise Pass level: Access All Areas Registered: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 20:00:00 Posts: 4394 Loc: Bristol, UK	Mrs.X - ROFLMAO!!!
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#2845 - Wed, 10 Nov 2004 03:24:00 Re: Question of the morning - Underpass/Overpass
Mrs. X Pass level: Access All Areas Registered: Tue, 01 Jun 2004 20:00:00 Posts: 2664 Loc: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada	I suppose I've got Herbert the Turbot to blame...er...thank. He started me off!! Thanks Herbert! Mrs. X
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#2846 - Wed, 10 Nov 2004 04:21:00 Re: Question of the morning - Underpass/Overpass
Oesterreicher II Pass level: Access All Areas Registered: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 20:00:00 Posts: 1136 Loc: Buxham St. Deirdre	Maybe there's a new competition here - tongue-in-cheek versions of our favourite songs, scurrilously undermining the originals either lyrically or musically - I'm thinking of my George Formby version of HYMN at this point, and wondering how me little ukelele would feel when it had been pushed sideways into some orifice by music's answer to Geoff Boycott. I'm also working on a mimimalist composition about teenage angst and comfortably intimate woollens, called MY SOCKS . . .
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#2847 - Wed, 10 Nov 2004 04:35:00 Re: Question of the morning - Underpass/Overpass
Mrs. X Pass level: Access All Areas Registered: Tue, 01 Jun 2004 20:00:00 Posts: 2664 Loc: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada	A parody contest! Brilliant! This brings to mind Flip Martian's unfinished story (which I love) called I Want To Be An Ice Cream. He should turn that into a song, and the there were the other parody titles on the front page of the story, like "The Pan That Fries Every Day," and "My Sacks." What do you say, Flip? Who would judge this one? Warren as well? Could he handle it?!?! Mrs. X
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#2848 - Wed, 10 Nov 2004 04:45:00 Re: Question of the morning - Underpass/Overpass
Oesterreicher II Pass level: Access All Areas Registered: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 20:00:00 Posts: 1136 Loc: Buxham St. Deirdre	PARODY ! That's the word I was looking for, couldn't quite lay my finger on it. Age might bring wisdom, but it also brings . . . oh, something else, it'll come to me in a minute. Thank-you, Mrs X ! Maybe a truly Ultravox rendition of "Shaduppa-Da-Face" might find a home here (rather than where it belongs, at the bottom of Sydney Harbour wearing concrete flip-flops) ?
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#2849 - Wed, 10 Nov 2004 06:20:00 Re: Question of the morning - Underpass/Overpass
Mrs. X Pass level: Access All Areas Registered: Tue, 01 Jun 2004 20:00:00 Posts: 2664 Loc: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada	Quote: Originally posted by Oesterreicher II: PARODY ! That's the word I was looking for, couldn't quite lay my finger on it. Age might bring wisdom, but it also brings . . . oh, something else, it'll come to me in a minute. Amnesia? Quote: Thank-you, Mrs X ! Maybe a truly Ultravox rendition of "Shaduppa-Da-Face" might find a home here (rather than where it belongs, at the bottom of Sydney Harbour wearing concrete flip-flops) ? You're welcome. Can't really see an Ultravox-like "Shaddup Your Face" though. Wouldn't sound good, and I think Warren would blacklist the person responsible! I'd rather stay in his good books. Let it stay at the bottom of Sydney Harbour where it belongs!!! Mrs. X
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#2850 - Wed, 10 Nov 2004 06:23:00 Re: Question of the morning - Underpass/Overpass
Flip Martian Pass level: Access All Areas Registered: Sat, 29 Jun 2002 20:00:00 Posts: 4753 Loc: Here	I just had a vision of John on Top of the Pops staring moodily into the camera and miming along to ... "leg leg bum..." and slapping his thighs and bum in time... God, those lyrics cracked me up... Puerile, but bloody funny... Kudos to Mrs X and Herbert T Turbot for the 1st verse... I Want To Be an Ice Cream eh? Blimey, I thought I was doing ok with "Satday Nite..." in episode 3... Actually I haven't a CLUE what the original lyrics are to "I Want To Be..." at the moment - I'll have to go away and have a few listens. If anyone wants to give it a go in the meantime, please do...
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#2851 - Wed, 10 Nov 2004 07:37:00 Re: Question of the morning - Underpass/Overpass
Volglory Pass level: Manager Registered: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 20:00:00 Posts: 345 Loc: The valley of Kavvnott	Nice one, Mrs. X!
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#2852 - Wed, 10 Nov 2004 09:29:00 Re: Question of the morning - Underpass/Overpass
Mrs. X Pass level: Access All Areas Registered: Tue, 01 Jun 2004 20:00:00 Posts: 2664 Loc: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada	Quote: Originally posted by Flip Martian: I just had a vision of John on Top of the Pops staring moodily into the camera and miming along to ... "leg leg bum..." and slapping his thighs and bum in time... God, those lyrics cracked me up... Puerile, but bloody funny... Kudos to Mrs X and Herbert T Turbot for the 1st verse... Thanks. Actually, since you mentioned it, I must give credit to Mr. X for the "leg leg bum" bit, as I couldn't think of anything in place of "click click drone!" That, of course, was an explanation of how one puts on underpants. Brilliant! Quote: I Want To Be an Ice Cream eh? Blimey, I thought I was doing ok with "Satday Nite..." in episode 3... Actually I haven't a CLUE what the original lyrics are to "I Want To Be..." at the moment - I'll have to go away and have a few listens. If anyone wants to give it a go in the meantime, please do... I might give it a go, if you don't beat me to it. I need to listen to the original a few times myself! But I might be able to come up with something. By the way, Phil...check your inbox. I answered your email and happened to mention this, having not come here first! Mrs. X
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#2853 - Wed, 10 Nov 2004 15:49:00 Re: Question of the morning - Underpass/Overpass
Rodney Pass level: Access All Areas Registered: Sat, 29 Jun 2002 20:00:00 Posts: 856 Loc: Dunedin, New Zealand	If I get involved in this, Cerise will have no option but to ban me from the forum (and with inspiration coming from the likes of Peter Cook and Dudley Moore's Derek & Clive and Australia's own Rodney Rude, is it any wonder?)! You should hear my version of Johnny Cash's Ring Of Fire... Ash: You'd certainly appreciate it!
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#2854 - Wed, 10 Nov 2004 18:54:00 Re: Question of the morning - Underpass/Overpass
Oesterreicher II Pass level: Access All Areas Registered: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 20:00:00 Posts: 1136 Loc: Buxham St. Deirdre	Quote: Originally posted by Oesterreicher II: Maybe there's a new competition here - tongue-in-cheek versions of our favourite songs, scurrilously undermining the originals either lyrically or musically . . Oh my God, I have unleashed a monster. . . I was joking ! I was joking !! It'll be more than "Fick off !" if it ever happens.
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#2855 - Wed, 10 Nov 2004 19:23:00 Re: Question of the morning - Underpass/Overpass
METAL BEAT Pass level: Access All Areas Registered: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 20:00:00 Posts: 825 Loc: Watford	Obviously I've nothing better to do JUST FOR A MOMENT and some of the parodies appeal to my sense of humour. I love all Johns songs to bits but I can't help but to think of some new titles. No one skiving, This bungle, Bridal wave,
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#2856 - Wed, 10 Nov 2004 21:00:00 Re: Question of the morning - Underpass/Overpass
Flip Martian Pass level: Access All Areas Registered: Sat, 29 Jun 2002 20:00:00 Posts: 4753 Loc: Here	Mrs X - Forget it! Have you read the lyrics?! http://rhizome.org/thread.rhiz?thread=2447&text=14406 I think I'll leave this one to you, I'm due back at work in a minute!
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#2857 - Wed, 10 Nov 2004 22:46:00 Re: Question of the morning - Underpass/Overpass
Mrs. X Pass level: Access All Areas Registered: Tue, 01 Jun 2004 20:00:00 Posts: 2664 Loc: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by METAL BEAT: <strong>Obviously I've nothing better to do JUST FOR A MOMENT and some of the parodies appeal to my sense of humour. I love all Johns songs to bits but I can't help but to think of some new titles. No one skiving, This bungle, Bridal wave, Flip: Having read the lyrics myself, I think I'll pass as well. It just seems way too difficult... :p Mrs. X
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#2858 - Thu, 11 Nov 2004 22:56:00 Re: Question of the morning - Underpass/Overpass
Craig Pass level: Green Room Registered: Mon, 01 Jul 2002 20:00:00 Posts: 159 Loc: Peterborough	Ok, three things: 1. I'm bored 2. I've got a cold 3. I had half an hour to kill I want to be an Ice Cream I hate the cones and the coke floats Licked by the Brighton Belle While seagull gourmets circle overhead To pick off your ‘Strawberry Choc Shell’ ‘Vorsprung Durch Technik’ An Audi passes by In tracks left by the tyres, ladies What’s left of your ‘99’ As I spy the photographers Snapping models beneath the pier Chorus: I want to be an Ice Cream I want to be an Ice Cream I want to be an Ice Cream I want to be an Ice Cream I stole a ‘Funny face’ from the cameramen And an opened can of pop In the doorway of a video store I sink my teeth into their lollipop If I had the cash and the means I’d buy my own Ice cream treats But right now I’d steal an unfinished ‘Cornetto’ From the sweaty grasp of my friends I hope your fridges are all safe from me I want to steal your Ice Cream I want to steal your Ice Cream I want to steal your Ice Cream I want to steal your Ice Cream Not for me, scrambled eggs A fry up, I couldn’t care less Let the sunburnt tourists get their thrills From a Jellied Eel stall in Shoeburyness Give me a stolen ‘Tango’ And a ‘magnum’ nicked from a dozy mare I’ll run away with what I’ve ‘borrowed’ Leaving my pockets with cash to spare For the arcades and the amusements beside the sea I want to steal your Ice Cream I want to steal your Ice Cream I want to steal your Ice Cream I want to steal your Ice Cream Walls! Thank you, I'm here all week, try the chicken kiev!
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#2859 - Thu, 11 Nov 2004 23:09:00 Re: Question of the morning - Underpass/Overpass
Mrs. X Pass level: Access All Areas Registered: Tue, 01 Jun 2004 20:00:00 Posts: 2664 Loc: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada	LOL!!!!! That was great, Craig, thank you!!! I guess that relieves a lot of pressure off of me then....doesn't it, Phil!! Maybe I'll try "The Pan Who Fries Every Day." Food...more my forté... Mrs. X
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#2860 - Fri, 12 Nov 2004 00:45:00 Re: Question of the morning - Underpass/Overpass
Flip Martian Pass level: Access All Areas Registered: Sat, 29 Jun 2002 20:00:00 Posts: 4753 Loc: Here	Nice one Craig...
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#2861 - Fri, 12 Nov 2004 04:02:00 Re: Question of the morning - Underpass/Overpass
METAL BEAT Pass level: Access All Areas Registered: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 20:00:00 Posts: 825 Loc: Watford	Craig Great parody. At least it made me smile! Peter
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#2862 - Fri, 12 Nov 2004 20:52:00 Re: Question of the morning - Underpass/Overpass
Herbert the turbot Pass level: Green Room Registered: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:00:00 Posts: 107 Loc: Barnsley	Chuffin eck - what have I started? A brilliant effort from Mrs X. Wonder if John would like to use the new lyrics next time he performs it?
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#2863 - Fri, 12 Nov 2004 23:26:00 Re: Question of the morning - Underpass/Overpass
Mrs. X Pass level: Access All Areas Registered: Tue, 01 Jun 2004 20:00:00 Posts: 2664 Loc: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada	Quote: Originally posted by Herbert the turbot: Chuffin eck - what have I started? A brilliant effort from Mrs X. Wonder if John would like to use the new lyrics next time he performs it? If he does, I'd like to be there to see it!! Especially if he does the "leg, leg, bum" actions as Flip had described. Priceless! Mrs. X
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#2864 - Sun, 21 Nov 2004 02:06:00 Re: Question of the morning - Underpass/Overpass
Phildo Pass level: Press Registered: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 20:00:00 Posts: 86 Loc: Somewhere in 1982	Quote: Originally posted by Herbert the turbot: "Underpass" was actually originally called "Underpants" and concerned John's quest for snugly fitting undergarments. Likewise 'The Garden' was originally called 'The Garter'.... Unfortunately inebriated . He took it very well, all things considered ... ...the answer was "er...no..."
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