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#2818 - Fri, 05 Nov 2004 17:58:00 Question of the morning - Underpass/Overpass
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Does anybody know why Underpass was originally called Overpass? (not that it makes a great deal of difference, I'm just curious!)

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#2819 - Fri, 05 Nov 2004 18:05:00 Re: Question of the morning - Underpass/Overpass
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I always thought that "Underpass" was the original title, while "Overpass" was meant to signify a more beefed-up version...
confused
Have you got any references to this?

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#2820 - Fri, 05 Nov 2004 18:21:00 Re: Question of the morning - Underpass/Overpass
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I'm sure it's in the notes in the booklet of last year's Omnidelic Exotour / Golden Section tour reissue. There's a short description on one of the pages of a selection of songs.

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#2821 - Fri, 05 Nov 2004 21:19:00 Re: Question of the morning - Underpass/Overpass
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I'm reading the Atrocity Exhibition again at the moment - Metamatic is a veritable soundtrack to this wonderful book!!!

You do get a very different view from "under" of course, rather than "over". It could just be a careful choice of words. By using "underpass" ( a more 'English' word) there is a suggestion of letting things go by overhead without being part of it and no-one would know you were there. You'd be more aware too of the sounds, the concrete, the automobiles.

Am I rambling...?

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#2822 - Fri, 05 Nov 2004 23:52:00 Re: Question of the morning - Underpass/Overpass
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Quote:
Originally posted by Alex S:
I'm sure it's in the notes in the booklet of last year's Omnidelic Exotour / Golden Section tour reissue. There's a short description on one of the pages of a selection of songs.
That's why I should buy that digipack too! Being the proud owner of an Exotour original and not caring much about live recordings I didn't bother to buy that double CD. But I forgot how sometimes JF liner notes can be very enlightening... the notes to "Assembly" are the best concise story of contemporary pop music I ever read.

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#2823 - Sat, 06 Nov 2004 00:31:00 Re: Question of the morning - Underpass/Overpass
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"Underpass" was actually originally called "Underpants" and concerned John's quest for snugly fitting undergarments. Likewise 'The Garden' was originally called 'The Garter'....

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#2824 - Sat, 06 Nov 2004 00:44:00 Re: Question of the morning - Underpass/Overpass
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Originally posted by Herbert the turbot:
"Underpass" was actually originally called "Underpants" and concerned John's quest for snugly fitting undergarments. Likewise 'The Garden' was originally called 'The Garter'....
lmao

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#2825 - Sat, 06 Nov 2004 03:38:00 Re: Question of the morning - Underpass/Overpass
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Originally posted by Herbert the turbot:
"Underpass" was actually originally called "Underpants" and concerned John's quest for snugly fitting undergarments. Likewise 'The Garden' was originally called 'The Garter'....
A bit like Midge singing about his aversion to ice cream chocolate -

'This means nothing to me - a Viennetta'

Boom boom bemused

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#2826 - Sat, 06 Nov 2004 03:58:00 Re: Question of the morning - Underpass/Overpass
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Ohhhhhhh...Viennetta.... lmao

Mrs. X

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#2827 - Sat, 06 Nov 2004 04:04:00 Re: Question of the morning - Underpass/Overpass
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Here's John's quote from the booklet:

"Overpass. This was the original title. How I felt when I came back from the war"

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#2828 - Sat, 06 Nov 2004 05:47:00 Re: Question of the morning - Underpass/Overpass
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Interesting! Which war is he talking about?

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#2829 - Sat, 06 Nov 2004 07:27:00 Re: Question of the morning - Underpass/Overpass
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1st World War probably (that's why John keeps his birthdate secret...)

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#2830 - Sat, 06 Nov 2004 07:30:00 Re: Question of the morning - Underpass/Overpass
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Or World War II would put him up there as well! (But he can't be that old, can he??) biglaugh

Mrs. X

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#2831 - Sat, 06 Nov 2004 07:38:00 Re: Question of the morning - Underpass/Overpass
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You should see him without his makeup on... wink

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#2832 - Sat, 06 Nov 2004 08:25:00 Re: Question of the morning - Underpass/Overpass
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Oh aye Flip, what you been up to then ?? wink

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#2833 - Sat, 06 Nov 2004 09:02:00 Re: Question of the morning - Underpass/Overpass
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Interesting! Which war is he talking about?
He'd been to 'Nham, Peckenham.

I'll get me coat... nutjob

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#2834 - Sat, 06 Nov 2004 09:21:00 Re: Question of the morning - Underpass/Overpass
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You should see him without his makeup on... wink
Or maybe he's had plastic surgery! Or...there's a lot of things that modern technology can do to a photo these days... smile

Mrs. X

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#2835 - Sat, 06 Nov 2004 21:40:00 Re: Question of the morning - Underpass/Overpass
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Quote:
Originally posted by Mrs. X:
Quote:
Originally posted by Flip Martian:
[b]You should see him without his makeup on... wink
Or maybe he's had plastic surgery! Or...there's a lot of things that modern technology can do to a photo these days... smile

Mrs. X[/b]
What about that old portrait in the attic, Dorian?
By the way... John once told me he was born in 1950... True lie?

Meriseth

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#2836 - Sat, 06 Nov 2004 21:45:00 Re: Question of the morning - Underpass/Overpass
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What about that old portrait in the attic, Dorian?
By the way... John once told me he was born in 1950... True lie?

Meriseth
I don't think anyone really knows for sure! In fact, there's an entire thread on the subject of John's age here . wink

Mrs. X

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#2837 - Tue, 09 Nov 2004 23:59:00 Re: Question of the morning - Underpass/Overpass
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"Standing in the shop
Stroking my thighs
Lifting up the Y-fronts
Nothing in my size

Underpants! (etc)"

Would anyone else with too much time on their hands like to finish off the lyric? smile

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#2838 - Wed, 10 Nov 2004 00:06:00 Re: Question of the morning - Underpass/Overpass
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Originally posted by Herbert the turbot:
"Standing in the shop
Stroking my thighs
Lifting up the Y-fronts
Nothing in my size

Underpants! (etc)"

Would anyone else with too much time on their hands like to finish off the lyric? smile
lmao

Give me a bit of time. I'm sure I could come up with something, hopefully! laugh

Mrs. X

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#2839 - Wed, 10 Nov 2004 00:36:00 Re: Question of the morning - Underpass/Overpass
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Told you I had lots of time on my hands! I felt inspired and came up with this (includes the first verse already done):

Standing in the shop
Stroking my thighs
Lifting up the Y-fronts
Nothing in my size

Underpants!
Underpants!

Well, I used to wear boxers
Now they're all worn
Wasn't it some...thing...
They warmed somebody's bum

Underpants!
Underpants!

Scouring through the britches
I think I like those
They're comfy at the same...time...
Leg, leg, bum

Underpants!
Underpants!

Snuggly on my ass now
Crumpled on the floor
They'll last for years...now...
Leg, leg, bum
Leg, leg, bum
Leg, leg, bum
Leg, leg, bum
Leg, leg...

Underpants!
Underpants!
Underpants!
Underpants!

(repeat to fade)

What do you think?? excited

Mrs. X

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#2840 - Wed, 10 Nov 2004 01:40:00 Re: Question of the morning - Underpass/Overpass
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URQUARKLE WILL RETURN!!! eek eek eek

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#2841 - Wed, 10 Nov 2004 01:41:00 Re: Question of the morning - Underpass/Overpass
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Love the lyric's. Funniest thing I read for A LONG TIME. I wonder if John has an opinion. excited
Regards Peter

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#2842 - Wed, 10 Nov 2004 01:42:00 Re: Question of the morning - Underpass/Overpass
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Overpass was used as a title because old Dennis got peeeeeed off with people shouting underpants at live concerts.....

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#2843 - Wed, 10 Nov 2004 02:52:00 Re: Question of the morning - Underpass/Overpass
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Mrs X
Love the lyric's. Funniest thing I read for A LONG TIME. I wonder if John has an opinion. excited
Regards Peter
Thank you, Mr. Beat! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="cool.gif" /> It was a bit TOUCH & GO, but I managed to come up with something that I thought was rather good. wink

If John were to look at this, and the only post he ever made was to comment on my little parody, I'd be honoured. lurve I'd hope he'd like it!

Mrs. X

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#2844 - Wed, 10 Nov 2004 03:03:00 Re: Question of the morning - Underpass/Overpass
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Mrs.X - ROFLMAO!!! lmao

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#2845 - Wed, 10 Nov 2004 03:24:00 Re: Question of the morning - Underpass/Overpass
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I suppose I've got Herbert the Turbot to blame...er...thank. laugh He started me off!! Thanks Herbert!

Mrs. X

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#2846 - Wed, 10 Nov 2004 04:21:00 Re: Question of the morning - Underpass/Overpass
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Maybe there's a new competition here - tongue-in-cheek versions of our favourite songs, scurrilously undermining the originals either lyrically or musically - I'm thinking of my George Formby version of HYMN at this point, and wondering how me little ukelele would feel when it had been pushed sideways into some orifice by music's answer to Geoff Boycott. I'm also working on a mimimalist composition about teenage angst and comfortably intimate woollens, called MY SOCKS . . .

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#2847 - Wed, 10 Nov 2004 04:35:00 Re: Question of the morning - Underpass/Overpass
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A parody contest! Brilliant! This brings to mind Flip Martian's unfinished story (which I love) called I Want To Be An Ice Cream. He should turn that into a song, and the there were the other parody titles on the front page of the story, like "The Pan That Fries Every Day," and "My Sacks." What do you say, Flip? laugh

Who would judge this one? Warren as well? Could he handle it?!?! lmao

Mrs. X

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#2848 - Wed, 10 Nov 2004 04:45:00 Re: Question of the morning - Underpass/Overpass
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PARODY ! That's the word I was looking for, couldn't quite lay my finger on it. Age might bring wisdom, but it also brings . . . oh, something else, it'll come to me in a minute. Thank-you, Mrs X ! Maybe a truly Ultravox rendition of "Shaduppa-Da-Face" might find a home here (rather than where it belongs, at the bottom of Sydney Harbour wearing concrete flip-flops) ?

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#2849 - Wed, 10 Nov 2004 06:20:00 Re: Question of the morning - Underpass/Overpass
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PARODY ! That's the word I was looking for, couldn't quite lay my finger on it. Age might bring wisdom, but it also brings . . . oh, something else, it'll come to me in a minute.


Amnesia? laugh

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Thank-you, Mrs X ! Maybe a truly Ultravox rendition of "Shaduppa-Da-Face" might find a home here (rather than where it belongs, at the bottom of Sydney Harbour wearing concrete flip-flops) ?
You're welcome. smile Can't really see an Ultravox-like "Shaddup Your Face" though. Wouldn't sound good, and I think Warren would blacklist the person responsible! I'd rather stay in his good books. wink Let it stay at the bottom of Sydney Harbour where it belongs!!!

Mrs. X

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#2850 - Wed, 10 Nov 2004 06:23:00 Re: Question of the morning - Underpass/Overpass
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I just had a vision of John on Top of the Pops staring moodily into the camera and miming along to ...

"leg leg bum..." and slapping his thighs and bum in time...

lmao lmao lmao

God, those lyrics cracked me up... Puerile, but bloody funny... biglaugh Kudos to Mrs X and Herbert T Turbot for the 1st verse... laugh

I Want To Be an Ice Cream eh? Blimey, I thought I was doing ok with "Satday Nite..." in episode 3... Actually I haven't a CLUE what the original lyrics are to "I Want To Be..." at the moment - I'll have to go away and have a few listens. If anyone wants to give it a go in the meantime, please do... smile

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#2851 - Wed, 10 Nov 2004 07:37:00 Re: Question of the morning - Underpass/Overpass
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biglaugh Nice one, Mrs. X!

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#2852 - Wed, 10 Nov 2004 09:29:00 Re: Question of the morning - Underpass/Overpass
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Originally posted by Flip Martian:
I just had a vision of John on Top of the Pops staring moodily into the camera and miming along to ...

"leg leg bum..." and slapping his thighs and bum in time...

lmao lmao lmao

God, those lyrics cracked me up... Puerile, but bloody funny... biglaugh Kudos to Mrs X and Herbert T Turbot for the 1st verse... laugh


Thanks. smile Actually, since you mentioned it, I must give credit to Mr. X for the "leg leg bum" bit, as I couldn't think of anything in place of "click click drone!" That, of course, was an explanation of how one puts on underpants. Brilliant!

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I Want To Be an Ice Cream eh? Blimey, I thought I was doing ok with "Satday Nite..." in episode 3... Actually I haven't a CLUE what the original lyrics are to "I Want To Be..." at the moment - I'll have to go away and have a few listens. If anyone wants to give it a go in the meantime, please do... smile
I might give it a go, if you don't beat me to it. I need to listen to the original a few times myself! But I might be able to come up with something. By the way, Phil...check your inbox. I answered your email and happened to mention this, having not come here first! wink

Mrs. X

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#2853 - Wed, 10 Nov 2004 15:49:00 Re: Question of the morning - Underpass/Overpass
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If I get involved in this, Cerise will have no option but to ban me from the forum (and with inspiration coming from the likes of Peter Cook and Dudley Moore's Derek & Clive and Australia's own Rodney Rude, is it any wonder?)! frown You should hear my version of Johnny Cash's Ring Of Fire...

Ash: You'd certainly appreciate it! nervouslaugh

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#2854 - Wed, 10 Nov 2004 18:54:00 Re: Question of the morning - Underpass/Overpass
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Maybe there's a new competition here - tongue-in-cheek versions of our favourite songs, scurrilously undermining the originals either lyrically or musically . .
Oh my God, I have unleashed a monster. . . I was joking ! I was joking !! It'll be more than "Fick off !" if it ever happens.

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#2855 - Wed, 10 Nov 2004 19:23:00 Re: Question of the morning - Underpass/Overpass
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Obviously I've nothing better to do JUST FOR A MOMENT and some of the parodies appeal to my sense of humour. I love all Johns songs to bits but I can't help but to think of some new titles.
No one skiving,
This bungle,
Bridal wave,
arnie

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#2856 - Wed, 10 Nov 2004 21:00:00 Re: Question of the morning - Underpass/Overpass
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Mrs X - eek Forget it! Have you read the lyrics?!

http://rhizome.org/thread.rhiz?thread=2447&text=14406

I think I'll leave this one to you, I'm due back at work in a minute!

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#2857 - Wed, 10 Nov 2004 22:46:00 Re: Question of the morning - Underpass/Overpass
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by METAL BEAT:
<strong>Obviously I've nothing better to do JUST FOR A MOMENT and some of the parodies appeal to my sense of humour. I love all Johns songs to bits but I can't help but to think of some new titles.
No one skiving,
This bungle,
Bridal wave,
biglaugh

Flip: Having read the lyrics myself, I think I'll pass as well. It just seems way too difficult... :p

Mrs. X

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#2858 - Thu, 11 Nov 2004 22:56:00 Re: Question of the morning - Underpass/Overpass
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Ok, three things:
1. I'm bored
2. I've got a cold
3. I had half an hour to kill

I want to be an Ice Cream

I hate the cones and the coke floats
Licked by the Brighton Belle
While seagull gourmets circle overhead
To pick off your ‘Strawberry Choc Shell’
‘Vorsprung Durch Technik’
An Audi passes by
In tracks left by the tyres, ladies
What’s left of your ‘99’
As I spy the photographers
Snapping models beneath the pier

Chorus:
I want to be an Ice Cream
I want to be an Ice Cream
I want to be an Ice Cream
I want to be an Ice Cream

I stole a ‘Funny face’ from the cameramen
And an opened can of pop
In the doorway of a video store
I sink my teeth into their lollipop
If I had the cash and the means
I’d buy my own Ice cream treats
But right now I’d steal an unfinished ‘Cornetto’
From the sweaty grasp of my friends
I hope your fridges are all safe from me

I want to steal your Ice Cream
I want to steal your Ice Cream
I want to steal your Ice Cream
I want to steal your Ice Cream

Not for me, scrambled eggs
A fry up, I couldn’t care less
Let the sunburnt tourists get their thrills
From a Jellied Eel stall in Shoeburyness
Give me a stolen ‘Tango’
And a ‘magnum’ nicked from a dozy mare
I’ll run away with what I’ve ‘borrowed’
Leaving my pockets with cash to spare
For the arcades and the amusements beside the sea

I want to steal your Ice Cream
I want to steal your Ice Cream
I want to steal your Ice Cream
I want to steal your Ice Cream

Walls!

Thank you, I'm here all week, try the chicken kiev!

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#2859 - Thu, 11 Nov 2004 23:09:00 Re: Question of the morning - Underpass/Overpass
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LOL!!!!! That was great, Craig, thank you!!! smile

I guess that relieves a lot of pressure off of me then....doesn't it, Phil!! lmao wink

Maybe I'll try "The Pan Who Fries Every Day." Food...more my forté... laugh

Mrs. X

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#2860 - Fri, 12 Nov 2004 00:45:00 Re: Question of the morning - Underpass/Overpass
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Nice one Craig... laugh biglaugh

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#2861 - Fri, 12 Nov 2004 04:02:00 Re: Question of the morning - Underpass/Overpass
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Great parody. At least it made me smile! wink
Peter

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#2862 - Fri, 12 Nov 2004 20:52:00 Re: Question of the morning - Underpass/Overpass
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Chuffin eck - what have I started?

A brilliant effort from Mrs X. Wonder if John would like to use the new lyrics next time he performs it? smile

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#2863 - Fri, 12 Nov 2004 23:26:00 Re: Question of the morning - Underpass/Overpass
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Chuffin eck - what have I started?

A brilliant effort from Mrs X. Wonder if John would like to use the new lyrics next time he performs it? smile
If he does, I'd like to be there to see it!! biglaugh Especially if he does the "leg, leg, bum" actions as Flip had described. laugh Priceless!

Mrs. X

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#2864 - Sun, 21 Nov 2004 02:06:00 Re: Question of the morning - Underpass/Overpass
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"Underpass" was actually originally called "Underpants" and concerned John's quest for snugly fitting undergarments. Likewise 'The Garden' was originally called 'The Garter'....
Unfortunately inebriated banghead .

He took it very well, all things considered shock ...

...the answer was "er...no..."

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