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#1986 - Mon, 04 Sep 2006 20:31:00 New John Foxx Interview
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hello. i conducted the recent interview in which john foxx discussed the influence of jg ballard on his work.

just letting you know that i've finally posted the second part of this interview at sleepy brain magazine: http://www.sleepybrain.net/john-foxx-seductive-whirlpools-part-2

i hope you like it. there's no ballard this time, but i still reckon it's better than the first part...full of fluorescent insights from john.

with best wishes
simon

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#1987 - Mon, 04 Sep 2006 21:20:00 Re: New John Foxx Interview
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Fantastic - interesting stuff!!
Thanks for letting us know.

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#1988 - Mon, 04 Sep 2006 22:38:00 Re: New John Foxx Interview
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Definitely one of the best

Thanks very much Simon

This is excellent.
Good of you to post it here too

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#1989 - Mon, 04 Sep 2006 23:59:00 Re: New John Foxx Interview
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Thanks for posting this. Very enjoyable read.
Peter

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#1990 - Tue, 05 Sep 2006 02:05:00 Re: New John Foxx Interview
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Very interesting, once again. Thanks for posting the link!

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#1991 - Tue, 05 Sep 2006 02:29:00 Re: New John Foxx Interview
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The first part of the interview inspired me to but Ballard's 'The Drowned World' and it was a fantastic read.

And was the first fiction book I've read from cover to cover in about 5 years!

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#1992 - Tue, 05 Sep 2006 07:05:00 Re: New John Foxx Interview
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thanks for the feedback. i'm interested to know what you all make of john's little technology list at the very end. it's pretty funny: "we can pierce ourseves for fun and status, get impossibly fat".

maybe he was tired of answering questions by that stage...entertaining either way, though

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#1993 - Tue, 05 Sep 2006 07:20:00 Re: New John Foxx Interview
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I take that kind of stuff as "John being John". I admit to not understanding half of what he goes on about. bemused And some of the stuff he comes out with seems to be "what can I get away with this time?" stream of consciousness but I'm probably totally wrong on that one... laugh

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#1994 - Tue, 05 Sep 2006 14:10:00 Re: New John Foxx Interview
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I I admit to not understanding half of what he goes on about. bemused
As much as that ??! He goes over my head all the time! I still like reading these interviews though, and this was a good one.

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#1995 - Tue, 05 Sep 2006 15:34:00 Re: New John Foxx Interview
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biglaugh Ok well when pushed I would admit to 2 thirds then... wink biglaugh

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#1996 - Tue, 05 Sep 2006 17:14:00 Re: New John Foxx Interview
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I have to admit, I do prefer his more straight-talking interviews!

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#1997 - Tue, 05 Sep 2006 17:42:00 Re: New John Foxx Interview
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I prefer the interviews that are easy to get facts and info etc, but Johns other ones are of interest too and do make sense.

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#1998 - Tue, 05 Sep 2006 20:59:00 Re: New John Foxx Interview
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Great interview. If you want straight talking, read a MU interview!!!

Phil you seem to think he's being deliberately obtuse - which i would agree with. The difference is I think its because thats where the real interesting stuff resides and he's not just doing it to be peculiar like some attenton seeking teenager..
whaddyathink?

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#1999 - Tue, 05 Sep 2006 23:13:00 Re: New John Foxx Interview
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I quite enjoyed that, I didn't think he was as obtuse as he can be there...

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#2000 - Tue, 05 Sep 2006 23:33:00 Re: New John Foxx Interview
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I do enjoy his mad ramblings - they're great. But since enlightening Foxx interviews are so far and few between, I would rather have plain old boring information in these instances!

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#2001 - Wed, 06 Sep 2006 00:00:00 Re: New John Foxx Interview
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he's being deliberately obtuse - which i would agree with. The difference is I think its because thats where the real interesting stuff resides and he's not just doing it to be peculiar like some attenton seeking teenager..
whaddyathink?
I think that's it absolutely Graeme.
John does so many interviews that are the mundane - what is that song about, what are you working on now, when is the album coming out - that I expect he rejoices at the oppoprtunity to talk to someone, like Simon, who runs a very intellectual website.
John can talk about stuff that he finds interesting and air his opinions to an audience that he feels is perhaps more on a level with him that the more high-profile record buying public.

What I love about his interview style like this is the same as the music - it demands something of us if we are to really understand.
John has never patronised us with banal music, so why with interviews.
He's obviously very relaxed in this environment too, and it comes across inthe length of time he talks and the depths he goes to.
he is obtuse, that's true. But isn't it fun trying to keep up??

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#2002 - Wed, 06 Sep 2006 05:10:00 Re: New John Foxx Interview
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Erm, I was going to say something here but thought it wiser not to (other than acknowledge it, that is...).

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#2003 - Wed, 06 Sep 2006 05:14:00 Re: New John Foxx Interview
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Phil you seem to think he's being deliberately obtuse - which i would agree with. The difference is I think its because thats where the real interesting stuff resides and he's not just doing it to be peculiar like some attenton seeking teenager..
whaddyathink?
Don't know - you may be right. Its only really interesting if you can understand it of course! smile

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#2004 - Thu, 07 Sep 2006 21:45:00 Re: New John Foxx Interview
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Hello all...so who agrees that John is Arnold Weizcs-Bryant, the thesis I posited at the end of part one of this interview?

Simon

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#2005 - Thu, 07 Sep 2006 22:21:00 Re: New John Foxx Interview
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Hello all...so who agrees that John is Arnold Weizcs-Bryant, the thesis I posited at the end of part one of this interview?

Simon
I think you're almost right but you've got it the wrong way round. Arnold Weizcs-Bryant is actually a real-life amateur film-maker who, some time in the 1970s invented a fictional character called "John Foxx". He then created a fictional band for this character called "Ultravox" but the joke backfired when the real life people Arnold got in as "John Foxx"'s backing band found a real singer called Midge Ure and became successful in their own right.
This forced Arnold to make his "John Foxx" character a solo artist. Arnold went on to make videos and films of Foxx's TV appearances to give the character a real-life persona and, despite a ten year break between 1985 and 1995, Arnold has kept the pretence up to this day.....

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#2006 - Thu, 07 Sep 2006 22:26:00 Re: New John Foxx Interview
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I find many of John's rants playful and funny - and you have to take into account his avowed interests in surrealism, situationism etc. Then it all kinda makes sense (or more logical non sense). wink

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#2007 - Thu, 07 Sep 2006 22:30:00 Re: New John Foxx Interview
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I think you're almost right but you've got it the wrong way round. Arnold Weizcs-Bryant is actually a real-life amateur film-maker who, some time in the 1970s invented a fictional character called "John Foxx".
beautiful -- i almost believe you. but i'm so naive, obviously. i got the impression from both interviews that it was all smoke and mirrors. i wanted to believe in arnold, but the anal cattle prod of truth kept jolting me awake. i'd still love to see the films, though. the super 8 format is *very* sexy indeed...

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#2008 - Fri, 08 Sep 2006 03:36:00 Re: New John Foxx Interview
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Hello all...so who agrees that John is Arnold Weizcs-Bryant, the thesis I posited at the end of part one of this interview?

Simon
Indeed, I think I suggested as much in another thread a while back (not quite as eloquently as you though!) and that sparked a bit of debate - it all seemed a bit..."uh huh...REALLY?!" to me. About as true as Ralf Hutter claiming back in 1981 Kraftwerk would be replaced by performing robots on stage ... smile But I may be wrong, I often am.

"Smoke and Mirrors" would be a great title for a John Foxx album... wink

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#2009 - Sat, 09 Sep 2006 23:32:00 Re: New John Foxx Interview
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Herbert, if John Foxx really is Arnold, then who is Dennis Leigh?
Cheers

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#2010 - Mon, 11 Sep 2006 17:22:00 Re: New John Foxx Interview
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Herbert, if John Foxx really is Arnold, then who is Dennis Leigh?
Cheers
Damn! You've spotted the flaw in my cunning theory!

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#2011 - Mon, 11 Sep 2006 19:42:00 Re: New John Foxx Interview
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I just ate a big red candle

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#2012 - Mon, 11 Sep 2006 20:05:00 Re: New John Foxx Interview
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Your making me feel hungry, 'edam' you!! laugh

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#2013 - Wed, 13 Sep 2006 18:50:00 Re: New John Foxx Interview
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there's more on the ballard/foxx connection over at the peerless k-punk: http://k-punk.abstractdynamics.org/archives/2006_09.html

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Jeremy Greenspan: What Iím influenced by is periphery, or periphery vision, because Canadaís all periphery. Thereís nothing recognizable. You walk around London, and itís one icon after the other, and I think you have this iconic fascination in some of your music: taking iconic images out of their own context. Like Ė whatís Ballardís first book? - The Drowned World, where heís scuba-diving through the city, and thereís the planetarium, and there are these submerged icons Ö Most of my influence is like city periphery, itís like wires, and highways, I think you also have that too. I went last year to the Barbican for the first time, Iíd never been there, and I thought, boy, this must be a real John Foxx influence.

John Foxx: I used to live near there. I used to walk there all the time.

JG: Do you know what I mean? There must have been something about that place, just the quality of the plaza spaces, and everything being subsumed into this complex.

JF: Itís like a model for a London that never was, and it could have been easily, and some of it is like that.

JG: Would you want to live in that London?

JF: I almost did live in the Barbican. I went to see a flat in there, I thought very carefully about it, and then, just accidentally, I got one nearby. I just like the way itís all self-contained.

JG: Yeah, so do I. Itís like Bentall box living ÖI mean, so much of the sort of thing that influences me is this periphery, this strip mall thing, and I think most peopleís inclination when I write about it is that Iím writing some sort of critique, you know, ĎWhy is it that we have to put up with this?í but obviously I find something haunting and beautiful about itÖ

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