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#1728 - Fri, 26 Nov 2004 01:02:00 From Brussels with Love
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Robin,

Remember this one <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="cool.gif" />

Perhaps the Forum can help whilst you are busy putting the finishing touches to the discography. wink

I recently acquired a copy of the CD From Brussels with Love. This is the 15 track version. The opening track is John's running at 0.34 ( the CD incorrectly makes it over 5 minutes!). This is a classical string (ARP Odyssey) synth sound from John. My question is that there is a 16th track running at 39 seconds. The ingredients here are of a track from John. This 16th track doesn't appear on the track listing and I don't think it's a continuation of the 15th track by Michael Nyman 'A walk through H'. I know from Jonas Warstad discography that Musique.... appears 3 or 4 times in the original double LP. It is mentioned here that it is the same track. Robin do you know what this closing track on the CD is ?
:rolleyes:

Roger you may have the answer?? laugh

Ciao!

Mr C

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#1729 - Fri, 26 Nov 2004 01:17:00 Re: From Brussels with Love
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Quote:
Originally posted by Chris C:
Robin, Remember this one <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="cool.gif" />
Of course I remember this one... wink

Quote:
Originally posted by Chris C:
Robin do you know what this closing track on the CD is ? :rolleyes:
I spoke to John a short while ago about this very track. At the time he couldn't remember it - so I sent him a copy of the CD to jog his memory. I'll post his reply as soon as I get it... wink

Rob

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#1730 - Fri, 26 Nov 2004 01:40:00 Re: From Brussels with Love
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I spoke to John a short while ago about this very track. At the time he couldn't remember it - so I sent him a copy of the CD to jog his memory. I'll post his reply as soon as I get it... wink

Rob
That's brilliant!

I really appreciate this answer! laugh

Once the Metamatic Monument is completely built what would John's involvement be or has been through this period ? wink

With songwriting, recording, touring, graphic design work, exhibitions, writing books, church ...walking does he find time to socialise or glance at both these websites? excited

Chris C

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#1731 - Sat, 27 Nov 2004 08:29:00 Re: From Brussels with Love
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Hi, Chris and everyone...

"identification of some bleeps"...that's a good subject for analysis, that's a problem of absolute interest for the True Foxx Fan.

Sure, I can help...

You can find detailed info about the various "From Brussels With Love" releases here:

http://sound.jp/rockwrok/brussels.html

http://home.wxs.nl/~frankbri/cremain1.html

http://sysip10.tripod.com/JohnFoxx/id12.html

Once you've read everything, you'll notice that the info is contradictory (not to mention the different timings provided by each page for our beloved jingles).

I own the original tape, so I checked it out (unluckily, I haven't got the lps yet).
On the original tape (Les Disques Du Crepuscule TWI 007) there are 3 jingles:
1) the first is the opening track and it's the same jingle featured as the opening track on side A of the double lp (TWI 008) and the (really poor) cd reissue; it lasts about 00:32 seconds;

2) the second is uncredited and it's shorter (about 00:14). This is not featured on the cd and it's probably the jingle which opens side C of the double lp;

3) the third jingle on the original tape is again short (about 00:13) and again is not featured on the cd. According to the japanese site, this isn't featured on the double lp, but it's unique to the cassette release;

The jingle featured as the last track on the cd (the one you were asking about) is also included on the double lp as the opening track for side D.

Finally, there's a jingle which opens side B of the double lp, which is unique to that release.

In the end, we have 5 jingles scattered on 2 releases...oh, oh, oh dislocation! smile

cheers

PS: waiting for a complete cd reissue, one should buy the original cassette and the double lp to get the 5 jingles. icky

PS2: aren't we completeley fooled by any John Foxx bleep beyond any reasonable limit? (at least some of us) lurve

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#1732 - Sat, 27 Nov 2004 16:39:00 Re: From Brussels with Love
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Originally posted by Roger:
aren't we completeley fooled by any John Foxx bleep beyond any reasonable limit? (at least some of us) lurve
You know, Roger, some of them are triggered off by any crazy thing... laugh

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#1733 - Sun, 28 Nov 2004 06:16:00 Re: From Brussels with Love
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Just how much more information have you got tucked into that hat of yours, Roger?
wink

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#1734 - Tue, 30 Nov 2004 01:54:00 Re: From Brussels with Love
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Quote:
Originally posted by Roger:


In the end, we have 5 jingles scattered on 2 releases...oh, oh, oh dislocation! smile

cheers

PS: waiting for a complete cd reissue, one should buy the original cassette and the double lp to get the 5 jingles. icky

PS2: aren't we completeley fooled by any John Foxx bleep beyond any reasonable limit? (at least some of us) lurve
"I thought you knew by now..."

John, we never shall.... and from which planet are you from ?

Anyhow, please don't ever change we love you that way!!

smile

Chris C

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#1735 - Tue, 30 Nov 2004 22:20:00 Re: From Brussels with Love
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Roger,

I forgot to say thanks.

Mille grazie!! wink

Roger shouldn't we ask Rob to encourage John to release these 5 jingles as part of Metamatica or Metatronic or perhaps consolidate them (jingles, demos etc) into a box set...

...just for the JF fans laugh

2005... is that 25 years of John in the music biz?

Let's have an anniversary party!!! excited

Chris C

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#1736 - Tue, 30 Nov 2004 22:27:00 Re: From Brussels with Love
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Originally posted by Chris C:
2005... is that 25 years of John in the music biz?

Let's have an anniversary party!!! excited

Chris C
No...this year would mark 30 years that John's been in the music biz! (Remember, he started Tiger Lily in 1974 which became Ultravox!) But if you mean his solo career, then yes, I think you're right...although he did leave Ultravox in 1979, so really this year would technically be 25 years for him. wink

Mrs. X

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#1737 - Tue, 30 Nov 2004 22:36:00 Re: From Brussels with Love
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Originally posted by Mrs. X:
Quote:
Originally posted by Chris C:
[b]2005... is that 25 years of John in the music biz?

Let's have an anniversary party!!! excited

Chris C
No...this year would mark 30 years that John's been in the music biz! (Remember, he started Tiger Lily in 1974 which became Ultravox!) But if you mean his solo career, then yes, I think you're right...although he did leave Ultravox in 1979, so really this year would technically be 25 years for him. wink

Mrs. X[/b]
Let John decide.

Dennis Leigh if you're watching I guess you're going to have a busy year ahead of you...we only have admiration for you!!!

Go for it John!!! excited

"There are no walls at all..."

A quiet friend
<img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="cool.gif" />

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#1738 - Thu, 06 Jan 2005 23:20:00 Re: From Brussels with Love
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Quote:
Originally posted by Roger:
Hi, Chris and everyone...

"identification of some bleeps"...that's a good subject for analysis, that's a problem of absolute interest for the True Foxx Fan.

Sure, I can help...

You can find detailed info about the various "From Brussels With Love" releases here:

http://sound.jp/rockwrok/brussels.html

http://home.wxs.nl/~frankbri/cremain1.html

http://sysip10.tripod.com/JohnFoxx/id12.html

Once you've read everything, you'll notice that the info is contradictory (not to mention the different timings provided by each page for our beloved jingles).

I own the original tape, so I checked it out (unluckily, I haven't got the lps yet).
On the original tape (Les Disques Du Crepuscule TWI 007) there are 3 jingles:
1) the first is the opening track and it's the same jingle featured as the opening track on side A of the double lp (TWI 008) and the (really poor) cd reissue; it lasts about 00:32 seconds;

2) the second is uncredited and it's shorter (about 00:14). This is not featured on the cd and it's probably the jingle which opens side C of the double lp;

3) the third jingle on the original tape is again short (about 00:13) and again is not featured on the cd. According to the japanese site, this isn't featured on the double lp, but it's unique to the cassette release;

The jingle featured as the last track on the cd (the one you were asking about) is also included on the double lp as the opening track for side D.

Finally, there's a jingle which opens side B of the double lp, which is unique to that release.

In the end, we have 5 jingles scattered on 2 releases...oh, oh, oh dislocation!

cheers

PS: waiting for a complete cd reissue, one should buy the original cassette and the double lp to get the 5 jingles.

PS2: aren't we completeley fooled by any John Foxx bleep beyond any reasonable limit? (at least some of us)
Hi Roger,

confused2 wink

The most ingenious of them all is the Jingle that opens Side 2 of the cassette. Basically John repeats the same synth lines twice. Here he plays homage to a theory that Brian Eno championed, that of Repetition. This is basically Lamont-Young's work and how sequencers work (This is explained in detail in a book called More Blank than Frank by Brian Eno). Just as it happens, this Jingle is the track that follows from Brian Eno's interview. ha

Nuovo Anno Felice Roger! wink

Chris C wink

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#1739 - Fri, 07 Jan 2005 22:22:00 Re: From Brussels with Love
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> My question is that there is a 16th track running at 39 seconds. The ingredients here are of a track from John. This 16th track doesn't appear on the track listing and I don't think it's a continuation of the 15th track by Michael Nyman 'A walk through H' (...) do you know what this closing track on the CD is ?
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Hello to all! I recently maganed to find that one on "SoulSeek" p2p program. Actually there were mp3s for all track from that compilation and 16th track is credited as "16 - John Foxx (A Jingle)" so I think that's John track.

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#1740 - Thu, 20 Jan 2005 03:06:00 Re: From Brussels with Love
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For all you music family tree and electronic history buffs like me
the following website is really excellent and contains loads of great info and the history of Crepuscule and Factory records

http://home.wxs.nl/~frankbri/index.html

smile smile

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#1741 - Fri, 23 Jun 2006 03:12:00 Re: From Brussels with Love
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Just realized that this already was posted. Sorry about that, but as the saying goes a good thing cannot be repeat too many times wink

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Still in demand this release, Thomas Dolby wrote about it in his blog (http://blog.thomasdolby.com/) a week ago:

Quote:
Possibly the rarest of any of my releases is this one. It was a (cassette-only) compilation released in 1981 by a Belgian label called Crepuscule. It included a demo version of ‘Airwaves’, recorded in my back room in London well before I got a record deal. I was approached recently by a company that wants to re-release it on CD and is trying to clear all the rights. I own the masters (unusual!) so I plan to say yes. The line-up on the album is terrific:

John Foxx

Duritti Column

Harold Budd

Richard Jobson

Gavin Bryars

A Certain Ratio

Martin Hamnett

Michael Nyman

An Interview with Brian Eno, etc

I have one copy of the cassette, resplendent in its soft plastic cover. But I don’t own a cassette player so I haven’t heard this recording of ‘Airwaves’ in years. It’s probably quite amateurish, as I used a little Boss Dr Rhythm box for the drums: but I bet it captures the essence of the song. I admit I cringe a bit when I listen to the version on The Golden Age Of Wireless, which hasn’t aged well: the production is far too ‘AOR’, with its chorused piano, glittering guitar chords and big drums. It was much better when I played it live. I regret not having had time to do a new arrangement of ‘Airwaves’ on this last tour. Maybe in the Fall?

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#1742 - Wed, 30 Aug 2006 00:51:00 Re: From Brussels with Love
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Originally posted by moi:
..(This is explained in detail in a book called More Blank than Frank by Brian Eno). ...
Correction. More Blank than Frank is the vinyl compilation (Desert Island Selection being the CD version of it). Released around the same time was the book More Dark than Shark . The book is a beauty, nicely endorsed with Russell Mills' sketches. The book covers Eno's solo career up to Thursday Afternoon . IMHO his best era and most innovating indeed.

Chris C wink

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#1743 - Wed, 30 Aug 2006 06:04:00 Re: From Brussels with Love
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Really like the bill nelson track shadow garden.

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#1744 - Wed, 30 Aug 2006 19:59:00 Re: From Brussels with Love
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Quote:
Originally posted by Valeriun:

Martin Hamnett
I trust the above is a typo and you really mean Martin "Zero" Hannett of Factory records fame?

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#1745 - Fri, 01 Sep 2006 01:30:00 Re: From Brussels with Love
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Originally posted by Musicmasters:
Quote:
Originally posted by Valeriun:
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Martin Hamnett
I trust the above is a typo and you really mean Martin "Zero" Hannett of Factory records fame?[/b]
You are right, but blame Thomas Dolby for the typo. I copied his blog laugh

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#1746 - Sun, 03 Sep 2006 17:48:00 Re: From Brussels with Love
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Originally posted by moi:
...The book covers Eno's solo career up to Thursday Afternoon . IMHO his best era and most innovating indeed.

However, Eno teamed up with John Cale and released the brilliant The Wrong Way Up . Also, his next solo release, the Nerve Net album was well received.

Anyhow the Brian Eno Interview on FBWL is fantastic. Looking forward to the re-release of FBWL.

Chris C wink

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#1747 - Tue, 05 Sep 2006 05:44:00 Re: From Brussels with Love
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Oh, and by the way

You can hear all 30-odd seconds of the first of these jingles here <img border="0" alt="[Suave]" title="" src="graemlins/suave.gif" />

http://www.wfmu.org/playlists/shows/17692

at the very wonderful WMFU.

I think it's the best radio station in the whole wide world and plays the most amazing range of unheard-of music. I even got my ears on Faith Global's "Earth Report" single on here.

John's track is near the end of the show, just before Tom Waits (who is also most excellent) - January 12 2006.
It's the opening jingle on the FBWL and is taken from the CD version (hence the title "Musique d'Ameublement") <img border="0" alt="[Suave]" title="" src="graemlins/suave.gif" />

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#1748 - Sun, 18 Feb 2007 10:01:00 Re: From Brussels with Love
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Why the concern? The jingles are not all that anyway........ Just a little 'Piddling at Pathway' while Gareth J and John B were out shopping.

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