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#1637 - Wed, 18 Apr 2007 01:52:00 John Foxx sound
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Just found this band called Kontour on MySpace and want to know if they are using the same equipment as used on Metamatic. The sounds are great.

MySpace - Kontour

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#1638 - Wed, 18 Apr 2007 06:46:00 Re: John Foxx sound
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Thanks for the link to them, it is very interesting sound wise. Not too sure what the instruments are (yet) though!!

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#1639 - Fri, 20 Apr 2007 01:05:00 Re: John Foxx sound
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Hi, I love the music of John Foxx. Espeacially Metamatic. This Kontour band sound like the old sounds that J Foxx used on Metamatic. Does anyone know if they are the same synths?

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#1640 - Fri, 20 Apr 2007 05:27:00 Re: John Foxx sound
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Right, theres possibly a Roland CR78 in there, but John used that for The Golden Section. This sounds like more obcsure instruments and probably an even earlier Roland drum sound, nearer to the Metamatic era. confused wink

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#1641 - Fri, 20 Apr 2007 05:41:00 Re: John Foxx sound
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Sound like a CR78 to me, but a bit distorted. It sounds pretty cool. Is there an ARP Odyssey on there? Also sounds like some sort of analog flanger, but very different.

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#1642 - Fri, 20 Apr 2007 05:54:00 Re: John Foxx sound
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Its Deep sounds but not from what would be expected, like a moog or mini. So yes it could be a synth from the late '70s - very early '80s like an odyessy. I think he used some distortion and unusual recording method for the end results.

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#1643 - Tue, 24 Apr 2007 15:34:00 Re: John Foxx sound
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Synths and other keyboards used on Metamatic were:
  • Arp Odyssey
  • Roland CR-78
  • Farfisa String Synth
  • MiniMoog
  • Hammond B-3
  • Hohner Clavinet
  • Upright piano (out of tune Pathway monster)

Those marked in bold were the main synths. Hope that clarifies things.

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#1644 - Tue, 24 Apr 2007 17:12:00 Re: John Foxx sound
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Thats great John. Always good to get info from people with hands on experience. The ARP Odyssey has always been one of my favourite synths and i was pretty sure it was used for the majority of 'Metamatic'. Now nice to know the Minimoog was used too.

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#1645 - Thu, 04 Oct 2007 00:49:00 Re: John Foxx sound
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I knew it!
Once I noticed there was clavinet on "Miles Away",
I was sure I could spot some all phased&schrunched to bits on "Touch and Go"

Where on earth is the Hammond being played though? I'd never haved twigged that in a million years!

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#1646 - Thu, 04 Oct 2007 02:30:00 Re: John Foxx sound
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The Hammond plays those off beat stabs in a break of Tidal Wave. Only an ickle bit.

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#1647 - Thu, 04 Oct 2007 06:49:00 Re: John Foxx sound
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Oh right! I *think* I can hear the bit you mean? There's a in instrumental bit in the middle with a high angular lead synth melody, and there's something scruffling around underneath? If I hadn't been looking for it I would've just thought it was some filter resonance or bits of reverb being Space Echoed about the pace in the background. Or John tripping over the furniture!

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#1648 - Fri, 05 Oct 2007 02:53:00 Re: John Foxx sound
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Thanks for the link. Enjoyed it.

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#1649 - Sun, 07 Oct 2007 22:49:00 Re: John Foxx sound
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Quote:
Originally posted by johnwesleybarker:
Synths and other keyboards used on Metamatic were:
  • [b]Arp Odyssey
  • Roland CR-78
  • Farfisa String Synth
  • MiniMoog
  • Hammond B-3
  • Hohner Clavinet
  • Upright piano (out of tune Pathway monster)

Those marked in bold were the main synths. Hope that clarifies things. [/b]
Thanks John.

Fascinating stuff.

I'm amazed to see a Farfisa String synth on the list. I understand that the Farfisa organ is a much preferred Church organ but never heard of a string synth of same.

Yes John and Ultravox had a penchant for bringing out these classical and church-like sounds mainly through a Yamaha SS30 and/or a Yamaha CS80. Moreover I was under the impression that the string synth on Metamatic was the Elka Rhapsody 610. Which string synth did you use on the strings at the end of Touch & Go? Which string synth did you use for those haunting strings on He's A Liquid? It sounds very organ-like.

On TOTPS re Underpass I see you playing a Yamaha, well simulating the bass lines. Perhaps the lush wooden finish synths that appeared on TOTPS weren't the ones used during the recording of Metamatic. Is this correct? Does the "funky" Hohner Clavinet appear on Underpass?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gED_P13h1-0

I wonder if there was enough space in Pathway for the Hammond B3 and all the above keyboards plus the energetic John Foxx! smile

Your response here would be much appreciated.

Thanks again

Chris wink

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#1650 - Mon, 08 Oct 2007 22:08:00 Re: John Foxx sound
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Chris,

I think the synth that you see there is a Yamaha CS30, which does look like a slimmed down version of the mighty CS80

I don't think JF ever used the Yamaha SS30...(which in my opinion is the best string synth ever made!)
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#1651 - Wed, 10 Oct 2007 15:19:00 Re: John Foxx sound
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Recently got a copy of Metal Beat ie the 2 CD interview disc on the making of Metamatic. John pointed out that the mixing, editing etc was carried out by John (Foxx) and Gareth Jones. Fine. More interestingly, he mentioned that there were recordings made at Gareth's place in Brixton that did not appear on the album. I'm pretty sure that some fragments or samples were recorded away from Pathway. On the list of synths used on Metamatic, kindly given to us by John (Barker), the ARP 2600 is not mentioned . Take a listen to He's a Liquid , specifically on that liquid type sound. If I'm not mistaken this is identical to the R2D2 sounds (from Star Wars!) and this, as we all know, was done on the ARP 2600. Could they have used an ARP 2600 from Gareth's pal, a so called Daniel Miller?

John (Foxx) accepted the Virgin records offer for Metamatic. I'm pretty sure that Mute Records would have made an offer. John (Foxx) perhaps accepted the most lucrative one. After all, those excerpts of Demos that appear on Metal Beat are actually very good and would have attracted any record company. It was all beginning to happen in 1979, Tubeway Army aka Gary Numan, The Human League etc. So who wouldn't have signed the ex Ultravox front man.

Finally, it is mentioned on the interview, and it is what has already been mentioned, that John (Barker) polished up certain parts of Metamatic, already written and recorded by John Foxx. John Barker's contribution is essential to Metamatic as he gave it a very avant garde/classical feel to the proto-metallic sound of the Demos. John Barker was already pioneering sounds a la Philip Glass as a member of Lost Jockey. Incidentally, John (Barker) was introduced to John (Foxx) by Gareth.

John can you tell us more about Lost Jockey and whether some elements of this Band were incorporated on Metamatic or was it a different kettle of fish altogether? Are there any recordings available of Lost Jockey?

Thanks
Chris wink

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#1652 - Sat, 03 Nov 2007 09:47:00 Re: John Foxx sound
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