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#11170 - Thu, 07 Aug 2003 19:53:00 He should never have quit!
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Ultravox were my life. For more years than I care to remember, Vox gave me a reason to live.
They still do, even though they are no longer together as they were.

I find it a shame that Chris decided to go back to
his former profession of psychotherapy, although I
admire him for doing so and I know he is helping a good many people by practicing. He was such a
talented bass player and yet remained as a background figure. I am personally indebted to
him as he was a real role model when I was a kid.

He played bass and was into synths. So am I. He
was a committed vegetarian. So am I. Al I can
say is thanks mate and, if you ever fancy a pint
and a chat one day, I'm your man!

Cheers
E.

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#11171 - Thu, 07 Aug 2003 20:35:00 Re: He should never have quit!
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are you kidding, it's super cool. He must have done studies, made music at the right age, made a success with it, then when it was over, he made it to a "real" job :-)
super cool life inmho..... psychiatrist don't earn enough to produce music, that's the problem , héhé...
I wonder if he's still psychiatrist..... (must be a funny for an ultravox fan to get examined by CC, i wonder what psy-disease it is to be a fan ;-)

Emulator : you know what you have to do now....

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#11172 - Fri, 08 Aug 2003 06:17:00 Re: He should never have quit!
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I am sure there must be big differences between a Psychiatrist and a Psychotherapist, which one is Chris? He used to like wearing cardigans, so my money is on Psychotherapist............ wink

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#11173 - Fri, 08 Aug 2003 18:55:00 Re: He should never have quit!
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would have been more funny as a dentist nutjob ... !!! :-)

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#11174 - Fri, 08 Aug 2003 21:51:00 Re: He should never have quit!
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Hey sam,

Something wrong with cardigans, eh, eh?

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#11175 - Fri, 08 Aug 2003 23:47:00 Re: He should never have quit!
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Chris is now a psychotherapist cussing , something he started training for before joining Tigerlily/Ultravox. wink

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#11176 - Sat, 09 Aug 2003 02:37:00 Re: He should never have quit!
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Chris is a biodynamic psychotherapist. How exciting is that, eh? Compared to being a rock star?! Biodynamics seems to be all about how your stomach isn't just for digesting food but also your anger, and other not-scientifically-proven seriously strange ideas. He's also a registered counsellor. Apart from taking money from people desperate enough to try anything, he's a nice bloke. Yeah, yeah, okay, everyone has the right to make a living, no-one is forcing people to go to therapy sessions, I know - fire away! I always have been and will be one of Chris's greatest fans, I love his music and he always came across as a genuine (if slightly batty) person. Anyone who knows my name on this forum will know that I don't take kindly to other people being mean to him but sheesh! Don't talk about it as though he's dedicating his life to altruism. No, he should never have given up music but you've got to do whatever makes you happy.

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#11177 - Sat, 09 Aug 2003 02:57:00 Re: He should never have quit!
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So he makes a living fleecing the gullible then?!

PAH!

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#11178 - Sun, 10 Aug 2003 03:58:00 Re: He should never have quit!
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Working on my own way of doing that, Flip! I haven't dropped off my perch btw; I'm having one of your "I'm too busy to breathe" wink episodes. Why does everything all happen at once?! God, it's &*^%ing hot here!

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#11179 - Sun, 10 Aug 2003 19:01:00 Re: He should never have quit!
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Working on my own way of doing that, Flip!
Oh yes?! That sounds interesting (wot a tease) smile

Roll on winter....the novelty of having a bit of a tan has worn off now - want it to be cold and wet again please.... <img border="0" alt="[Pissed]" title="" src="graemlins/pissed.gif" />

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#11180 - Mon, 11 Aug 2003 00:16:00 Re: He should never have quit!
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I'm aiming to fleece innocent tourists on the north Scottish coast road. By the time they get up there, they'll buy anything. I'll be the one selling 'anything' with a puffin on it - very popular, puffins. At the moment I'm just fleecing local Oxfordians. It's cooler here today, by about 2 degrees and there are thunderstorms heading your way, Flip.

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#11181 - Mon, 11 Aug 2003 05:31:00 Re: He should never have quit!
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Serenade, you go girl, you fleece those damn tourists good.....we are in the grip of the height of the Tourist Season and if I have to wait for hours behind a $%^*&ing caravan/camper van/4 wheel drive vehicle with 79 bikes strapped on the back, I will committ $%^&^ing murder..... cussing Puffins are good, but just remember what happened to St Kilda.......... frown

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#11182 - Mon, 11 Aug 2003 06:02:00 Re: He should never have quit!
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A few rolls of thunder...a couple of flashes of lightning...no rain...c'mon, give us some rain! frown

*rushes off to register www.puffins-r-us.co.uk before Serenade does...*

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#11183 - Mon, 11 Aug 2003 20:46:00 Re: He should never have quit!
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Sam - Sorry to wander so far off topic here but what did happen to St Kilda?! Did he get eaten by them or something?! They still eat Puffin in the Faroes - ugh. Actually, didn't Chris live in the Highlands at Findhorn (Epicentre of Weird) for a while? Not so far off topic then.
Flip! Puffins-r-us indeed! I make greetings cards called Tufty Puffin Cards (but they don't have puffins on them) and I paint puffins on things because tourists will buy anything with a puffin on it. I even make Puffin Pies but they don't contain real puffin. They may contain real tourists, though!

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#11184 - Tue, 12 Aug 2003 05:44:00 Re: He should never have quit!
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Serenade - have you moved now then? I was trying to figure out what people would want puffins for in Wantage... confused

And can't you get done under Trades Descriptions if your tufty puffins don't contain any puffin? I feel a Monty Python sketch coming on... shock

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#11185 - Tue, 12 Aug 2003 06:48:00 Re: He should never have quit!
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St Kilda isn't a he eek its an Island off the West Coast of Scotland that had an indiginous population until the early 1930's, when, they all elected to be taken off the Island and absorbed into the Mainland (Tir Mor). They couldn't sustain their way of life and all the young folk kept leaving (wonder why)and if you and your tufty puffins had been around then you would have been able to make real puffin pie as the puffins who inhabit the Island, and there are loads of them, were the staple diet of the said indiginous population!!!!!!!They did everything imaginable with puffins, somethings probably well against the law, but now St Kilda is only inhabited by Scottish Natural Heritage who take fecking tourists in helicoptors out there to see the puffins and the remains of what was once a thriving village. There are some decendants of the original St Kilda folk living here in Caol and some in Lochaline, as this is where they were put all those years ago...there are 2 houses locally named after the two highest peaks on St Kilda and one of them has, yes, a puffin on the name plate!!!!!!!Not sure they do puffins in Sutherland...they certainly don't eat them anyway! I totally support the idea of putting tourists in pies. Yes I think Chris did live up here in the epicentre of weird for a while, you and I really must get together when you arrive North of the Border, we could go to St Kilda and sample some puffins........... laugh

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#11186 - Tue, 12 Aug 2003 17:17:00 Re: He should never have quit!
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Flip, I haven't moved yet (note the reference to 'local Oxfordians' in my previous post :p ) but I'm aiming to be there by this time next year.I'm stocking up on tourist-fleecing devices and come next summer I'll be prepared. I especially like Americans, who will buy anything if it's tartan or puffin - I may try painting pictures of tartan puffins.
Sam, there are puffins in Sutherland! I walked four miles in horizontal rain to Faraid Head to visit the puffin colony, and being sensible critters they'd all sodded off to the North Sea where it was warmer. They'd left the pufflings behind and there was lots of underground wittering going on but no puffins.
As you are already 'up there,' have you ever been to Finhorn? I tried to find out about it but they're a funny lot - their website seems normal enough but I've read some horror stories about what they do to people who want to leave their cult. Chris and Lynne escaped - maybe they've started up the Reading Branch of Weird?
Happy to meet up once I've moved - we can have a girlie night out, forget the kids, drink outrageous cocktails and drool over thoughts of the more delicious members of Ultravox wink

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#11187 - Sat, 16 Aug 2003 06:05:00 Re: He should never have quit!
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I am glad there are Puffins in Sutherland ( I don't go there often as you may have gathered, I was there in Thurso for a Conference recently but didn't go into the Puffin issue to deeply ) other wise you would have trouble selling trusty puffins even to American Tourists!!!!!!!! When you move, I will meet you half way (Inverness?) you bring your photo album and I will bring mine!!!!!!!!!

I have never been to Finhorn and don't really know much about it, I think it is over on the East side of the Highlands, not sure, I am a huge supporter of Communes as I don't really want to partipate in real life myself, and, value their ideals, but it all seems to all go wrong somewhere along the line and some little Hitler/rette tries to make it into his/her own little empire........ eek Not into brainwashing, me.

R U sure you can't make it on the 13th pet? I am sure the Glaswiegans would love to see your puffins............. wink

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#11188 - Sat, 16 Aug 2003 06:11:00 Re: He should never have quit!
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Just read your previous post again Serenade, the more delicious members of Ultravox, hummmmmmmm, wonder who they can be........... confused are we not too old now to be harking back to our teenage life? No? Thought not, see you in Inverness....... nervouslaugh

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#11189 - Tue, 26 Aug 2003 12:15:00 Re: He should never have quit!
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As Emulator began this thread, I too must admit that Ultravox was my life for many years. My reason for living (what can I say, I was a teenager!). When I learned that Chris had gone into the field of psychotherapy, I had to smile as I imagined how 'interesting' it would be to become a patient of his, and have him be the one to whom I explained how living my life for Ultravox had so thoroughly f**ked me up mentally for so many years LOL!
All kidding aside, I work in a psychiatric clinic, and I greatly admire the good work that psychotherapists do. I always sensed Chris was a sensitive, good-natured gentleman, and I am sure he is a wonderful psychotherapist. And yes, a vastly underrated musician. One only need to listen to (or watch) his bass work on the live version of "The Voice" from the "Monument" soundtrack to hear what an incredible, passionate bass player he was. And only just recently learning from another thread on here that Chris performed the guitar work on "Paths and Angles" only served to further reinforce my admiration for his talent and belief of his underrated status. However, "Everything is temporary" and it is good to know that Chris has moved on to a profession in which his goal is to help people. So, perhaps in essence, we lose one hell of a musician, but we gain an active 'humanitarian'. Life is often a trade-off anyway, isn't it?
I won't even touch the issue of the medical profession 'fleecing' the 'gullible'...(smile)...

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#11190 - Wed, 27 Aug 2003 12:44:00 Re: He should never have quit!
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With all this talk of ULTRAVOX taking over us!
Me too! eek
You've no idea of the slagging i got from my mates at school all down to pointed sideburns, high waisted pinstriped trousers, white oxford lace up shoes....(they had to have black soles!, silver shirt bands, baggy short collared shirts, Burgandy or black polka dotted ties, thick button down braces & a FAKE burberry raincoat......thanx MU!!! biglaugh

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#11191 - Mon, 08 Sep 2003 05:56:00 Re: He should never have quit!
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Serenade, BIODYNAMIC psychotherapist? I hadn't heard that before. Sounds wacky. I also have wondered what would happen if an Ultravox fan walked into his office. I can only speak for myself: I would be needing clean underwear, I think! Yikes! I didn't realise that the Findhorn people were THAT weird, that it was sort of like a cult? I thought they were just a buttload of harmless new-age type hippes.

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#11192 - Mon, 08 Sep 2003 20:23:00 Re: He should never have quit!
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You ever seen that movie 'The Wickerman'
I rest my case!!! nervouslaugh

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#11193 - Mon, 08 Sep 2003 23:39:00 Re: He should never have quit!
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There's a thread on here somewhere on The Wickerman that I started a while ago, don't think anyone added to it all though so it's probable that no-one has seen it...

On the other hand, any cult that has Britt Ekland can't be all bad. laugh

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#11194 - Tue, 09 Sep 2003 06:24:00 Re: He should never have quit!
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tooooooooo right there matey!

5 mare sleeps tae go!!!
excited excited excited

FECK, DRINK, ARSE, GIRLS!!!
excited excited excited

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#11195 - Sat, 20 Sep 2003 15:14:00 Re: He should never have quit!
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Wow, that's interesting! - I always thought that some of the Ultravox songs were slightly "mystic" (if not confounding...as some of Midge's)...and biodynamics? - Did a two-year training in biodynamic craniosacral therapy, and it's bloody good work!...I never went to Findhorn though...

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#11196 - Tue, 28 Oct 2003 23:46:00 Re: He should never have quit!
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Good luck indeed to Chris. He's doing fine work.
As for the sad people here who think he's 'fleecing the gullable' - shame on you.

Yes, our supposed 'loss' as a hero and musician
is the wider world's gain. It's great that he's
helping others now. He seems to have the role
that Billy, Ure and Warren lack: Billy continues
to nibble away on the fringes of music, ditto Ure
who has seemingly dissed his Ultravox past and Warren who seems to called it a day with music and
become an obscure actor.

Ultravox were always greater than the sum of their
parts. I'd love it if Foxx and Currie were to bury the hatchet - like Eno and Ferry did - and
write and tour together. If they could recruit
Simon, Cross and Cann again, think of the resultant tour! Failing that, to have Cann, Foxx and Currie together again with new members would be awesome.

I saw Foxx live recently and his sidekick Louis
Gordon reminded me so much of the young Currie.
It was great to hear My Sex and Just For A Moment
again too.

Cheers
Emulator

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#11197 - Wed, 29 Oct 2003 05:32:00 Re: He should never have quit!
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I am listening to Endlessly just now, recorded at the York gig on the recent Johnny Foxx tour, and I too would love to see the original band members get back together for a reunion. We have debated this before and its just such a 'oh there's a flying pig' (Conny's Pig probably!)situation.

But we do have the prospect of Sleepwalker and his band of merry men going public with the UV music, and as long as he does not wear that leather bomber jacket ( or is it a 'casual' jacket Sleepy? ) and there is some soft (very soft) lighting and we are all wearing dark <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="cool.gif" /> (very dark) glasses, we can all pretend its a reunion can't we? bemused

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#11198 - Wed, 29 Oct 2003 07:00:00 Re: He should never have quit!
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Quote:
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I am listening to Endlessly just now, recorded at the York gig on the recent Johnny Foxx tour,
I think I'm right in saying that Endlessly was the track that went down most favourably on this tour. Certainly both the Glasgow and Edinburgh gigs...

Quote:
Originally posted by Sam:
But we do have the prospect of Sleepwalker and his band of merry men going public with the UV music, and as long as he does not wear that leather bomber jacket ( or is it a 'casual' jacket Sleepy? ) and there is some soft (very soft) lighting and we are all wearing dark <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="cool.gif" /> (very dark) glasses, we can all pretend its a reunion can't we? bemused
I guess that also depends on if there's a well-stocked bar as well... laugh

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#11199 - Thu, 30 Oct 2003 21:02:00 Re: He should never have quit!
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RIGHT THAT'S IT!!! confused2

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#11200 - Fri, 31 Oct 2003 06:00:00 Re: He should never have quit!
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Aye, that would be right Sleepy. Can just see me and the other blonde acting as your Roadies! And poor Si as well. Me thinks not. I will be reviewing your contract. They do very fetching bombers jackets in Mr Byrite you know..... wink

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#11201 - Fri, 31 Oct 2003 06:03:00 Re: He should never have quit!
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Can I be the roadie that "selects" the groupies for the aftershow (or in Billy's case, keyboard). All for the greater good of course .... <img border="0" alt="[The Finger]" title="" src="graemlins/thefinger.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[The Finger]" title="" src="graemlins/thefinger.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[The Finger]" title="" src="graemlins/thefinger.gif" />

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#11202 - Fri, 31 Oct 2003 06:10:00 Re: He should never have quit!
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Groupies? Ultravox never had Groupies (you ask Piggy)............................... eek

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#11203 - Fri, 31 Oct 2003 06:15:00 Re: He should never have quit!
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next you'll be saying they didn't drink either
eek eek eek

what sort of gig is this going to be then ????

If there is a cardboard monument it makes it easier to trash the place at the end of the gig evil evil

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#11204 - Mon, 19 Jan 2004 06:15:00 Re: He should never have quit!
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Uh hehehehe... I would classify myself, as I was in the 80's, ALMOST an Ultravox Groupie! Haha! laugh

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#11205 - Sat, 31 Jan 2004 15:07:00 Re: He should never have quit!
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bemused

It is incredible to hear Chris's bass so clearly and Bill's synth. They are on vinyl, but they are so much into the background, my stereo then sort of over-looked them. (Metamatic, there is a lot there too vinyl wouldn't bring out as much).

It's a really nice CD player. Helps me sleep a whole lot better. (I am not sleeping so great. Maybe I better ask Chris on how to shut my mind off from worrying about things so much!) Think he'd help? smile

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#11206 - Tue, 24 Feb 2004 05:01:00 Re: He should never have quit!
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Maybe Cris can come here and give us phychotherapy, i sure could use some mental
guidelines.. nutjob I often wonder if it´s
the music that makes me loose myself or if it´s the cure to being lost. laugh either way..if you have some spare time Cris.....i have a couch!!!! laugh
Stay <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="cool.gif" />
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#11207 - Thu, 26 Feb 2004 20:25:00 Re: He should never have quit!
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Lets av ye CC confused2

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#11208 - Mon, 08 Mar 2004 05:26:00 Re: He should never have quit!
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Mare chance o' the pope flashin' eez arse shock

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#11209 - Mon, 08 Mar 2004 05:27:00 Re: He should never have quit!
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Mare chance o' 'you know who' purrin' er hand in 'er purse shock

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#11210 - Mon, 08 Mar 2004 05:29:00 Re: He should never have quit!
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Mare chance o' the mags winnin' a cup shock

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#11211 - Mon, 08 Mar 2004 05:30:00 Re: He should never have quit!
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Mare chance o' me bein' sensible instead o' talkin' pap shock

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#11212 - Tue, 09 Mar 2004 17:08:00 Re: He should never have quit!
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So quite a realistic chance then...

Craig viking

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#11213 - Wed, 17 Mar 2004 19:50:00 Re: He should never have quit!
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Aye mare chance 'o Hibs winnin' the CIS cup....ha ha ha !

'LETS ALL LAUGH AT HIBEES, LETS ALL LAUGH AT HIBEES NANA-NA-NA NANA-NA-NA' excited excited

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#11214 - Wed, 17 Mar 2004 19:52:00 Re: He should never have quit!
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Mare chance o' 'you know who' purrin' er hand in 'er purse shock
Nah, now yer bein' totally ridiculous porks ma auld sunna!!! shock shock shock

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#11215 - Mon, 19 Apr 2004 00:19:00 Re: He should never have quit!
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St Kilda isn't a he eek its an Island off the West Coast of Scotland that had an indiginous population until the early 1930's, w laugh
weird. I was reading about this last night. August 1930 the last 36 residents left. St Kilda is the group of islands of which Hirta was populated by people and the group of rocks (the top of a volcano, in fact) have the biggest puffin fulmar and gannet populations in the Atlantic

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#11216 - Mon, 19 Apr 2004 00:23:00 Re: He should never have quit!
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Originally posted by Christine:
Wow, that's interesting! - I always thought that some of the Ultravox songs were slightly "mystic" (if not confounding...as some of Midge's)...and biodynamics? - Did a two-year training in biodynamic craniosacral therapy, and it's bloody good work!...I never went to Findhorn though...
how many of you lot saying 'gullible' and 'fleecing' actually know anything whatsoever about what you're talking about? ever had any of the treatment or are you just spouting completely ignorant crap (like most vocal critics of unorthodox medicine)? Let me guess... <img border="0" alt="[Pissed]" title="" src="graemlins/pissed.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[Pissed]" title="" src="graemlins/pissed.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[Yawn]" title="" src="graemlins/yawn.gif" />

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#11217 - Tue, 20 Apr 2004 14:31:00 Re: He should never have quit!
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Originally posted by Serenade:
Chris is a biodynamic psychotherapist. How exciting is that, eh? Compared to being a rock star?! Biodynamics seems to be all about how your stomach isn't just for digesting food but also your anger, and other not-scientifically-proven seriously strange ideas. He's also a registered counsellor. Apart from taking money from people desperate enough to try anything, he's a nice bloke.
Actually what Chris is doing has been proven to be true. Why do you think so many people get ulcers and heartburn? Your body is one all connected organism, what affects one thing affects the whole. The way things are now, can't count on a job to support your family, can't make plans to own a home etc. This is what the work force is finding out. Lack of respect for superiors. (Superior my fat fanny!) and a big lack of trust, and it shows up physically as well.

I don't practice Yoga, (like I am supposed to.) I don't meditate, I do my own thing which is when I weight lift think of nothing, but that isn't meditating really.

No. I am on the computer either here, or somewhere else when I can get to one. (Damn hackers!) But maybe writing is another form of meditation. I should ask Chris.

I think he is helping people. I think what he studies makes a lot of sense. I think it isn't some strange ideas, but things that were always known but were ignored by early "modern" science.
Chris would be interesting to talk to, and I don't think he just does it to make money.

If he left music to persue this, I really admire him for that. smile

sad - even little me needs a little help.

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#11218 - Thu, 22 Apr 2004 03:01:00 Re: He should never have quit!
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sad - even little me needs a little help.
Me too! It's absolutely true. My IBS gets chronic whenever I'm stressed or down (like right now), there really is a link between mind and body. Wish I could have a chat with someone like Chris...mate's rates of course!

The drugs don't work, they just make me burp viking

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#11219 - Thu, 22 Apr 2004 03:24:00 Re: He should never have quit!
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Well I burp and I'm OFF the IBS medication...! eek Drives me mad it does...

My IBS is helped by getting enough sleep (its ALWAYS worse when I'm tired), eating oranges (the flesh of the oranges apparently gives your gut a workout) and drinking those little bio drinks with active bacteria in.

And avoiding foods you know aggravate your IBS.

And try not to get stressed (hypnotherapy can help).

2/3 years on and I'm mostly off the anti acid/anti bloating pills I was taking.

Prob a bit off topic, but mine was caused by a big does of stress amongst other things. So well done to Chris for doing something worthwhile with his brain. smile

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