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#10664 - Thu, 20 Jul 2006 19:27:00 Chris Cross & Midge Ure interview, October 1986
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I've sorted out some old stuff of late and I came across a "Mr. and Mr. Quiz" which Chris Cross and Midge Ure did in No. 1 magazine October 4th, 1986, p. 42-43 (Paul Young is on the cover).

I just got myself a new scanner the other day so I thought scanning this article could be a good way of checking it out. Those who haven't yet read this interview can alas access it here and learn about Chris' fondness of Australia, his dislike of cigarettes (it's in fact 7 years since I quit myself today, you were right all along Chris biglaugh ) and his broken nose (ouch!) wink

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#10665 - Thu, 20 Jul 2006 20:02:00 Re: Chris Cross & Midge Ure interview, October 1986
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Some interesting answers! smile Thanks for scanning that.

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#10666 - Thu, 20 Jul 2006 20:32:00 Re: Chris Cross & Midge Ure interview, October 1986
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Great, thanks smile

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#10667 - Thu, 20 Jul 2006 22:22:00 Re: Chris Cross & Midge Ure interview, October 1986
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Wow, Valeriun , you're great! Keep 'em coming please! wink
I just love those old interviews!

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#10668 - Thu, 20 Jul 2006 23:54:00 Re: Chris Cross & Midge Ure interview, October 1986
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thanks, 'like the best bits of america without the americans' thats true wink

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#10669 - Fri, 21 Jul 2006 01:08:00 Re: Chris Cross & Midge Ure interview, October 1986
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Gee, with comments like that I guess now I know why there aren't many American fans of Ultravox and the reason why they didn't come here much.

I truly am devastated; glad I did not see that one when it came out. I guess ignorance is bliss.
I really don't know what to say.

cry cry

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#10670 - Fri, 21 Jul 2006 01:34:00 Re: Chris Cross & Midge Ure interview, October 1986
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i was only joking MA, sorry frown

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#10671 - Fri, 21 Jul 2006 01:34:00 Re: Chris Cross & Midge Ure interview, October 1986
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i've never been to australia so i wouldnt know wink

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#10672 - Fri, 21 Jul 2006 01:43:00 Re: Chris Cross & Midge Ure interview, October 1986
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Steven, that wasn't directed at you. I guess, I am a bit upset that my favorite band isn't so keen on Americans, I guess.

But thanks for your comments kiss Even though we all mess with you :rolleyes: ha , you are real fun to chat with and you have great taste in music!!!!

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#10673 - Fri, 21 Jul 2006 01:55:00 Re: Chris Cross & Midge Ure interview, October 1986
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I really don't know what to say.
A speechless Maryann, Flip jump in here asap! I thought we will never get such a situation soon again. My dear, don't take it that much personally. Writing this now to give you a better feeling is also not easy for me. It is very easy to do something wrong. Generally I think you have to be a non-american (let's say an european) to understand it really in the right way. It is nothing against your wonderful country, your people or whatever. I think it is simply Chris' dislike of the "american way of live" we are all forced into. It dominates our live to much. There is no reason for following this hipe. Absolutely not. For instance the germans especially are giving up their own language more and more, replacing german words with english ones. Why the hell a daily german newsmagazin on TV has to be called "NEWS" and not "NACHRICHTEN"? Why am I buying a "TICKET" and not a "FAHRKARTE"? Why is there a "SALE" in the shops and not an "AUSVERKAUF"? And so on and on. This unwanted americanization (which is in truth a slowly orientation to the english language and direct usage of some of its words) creates frustration. Especially older people are not able to understand this. So with this in background, this is my personal interpretation (and german sight) of Chris. I am sure he is not meaning exactly this, but the direction is clear I think. There's no reason for sadness Maryann.

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#10674 - Fri, 21 Jul 2006 01:58:00 Re: Chris Cross & Midge Ure interview, October 1986
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Valeriun: I forgot to say Thanks for this!

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#10675 - Fri, 21 Jul 2006 02:04:00 Re: Chris Cross & Midge Ure interview, October 1986
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Thanks Andi, you are a real sweetheart
kiss kiss ;.
I know I shouldn't take it personally but I do. Maybe it is because I am the only Ultravox fan I know (since the beginning) here and always having people say "what is that you are listening to, blah blah blah, etc)and always having to defend my choice of music..........and then to read that.

I don't know, it isnt the same as when people attack that idiotic president of my country since he doesn't represent ANYTHING I stand for and believe in. This is totally different. How would you feel if they said Germany instead of America? Can you understand it if I say it that way?

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#10676 - Fri, 21 Jul 2006 02:04:00 Re: Chris Cross & Midge Ure interview, October 1986
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And not even Mr Martian can cheer me up right now, Andi!

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#10677 - Fri, 21 Jul 2006 02:05:00 Re: Chris Cross & Midge Ure interview, October 1986
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And Andi: I do not disagree with you regarding americanization/ globalization.

New York should be its own sovereign nation !!

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#10678 - Fri, 21 Jul 2006 02:33:00 Re: Chris Cross & Midge Ure interview, October 1986
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When the interview was conducted Ronald "Mad Dog McDonald" Reagan (as he was known as in Smash Hits back then) was running things in the States. I don't know if that may have weighed in on Chris' opinion of Americans in general at the time?

These days the Australian government is probably more right wing than what you have in the States. If Chris was interviewed now, maybe his opinion would have changed? wink

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#10679 - Fri, 21 Jul 2006 02:54:00 Re: Chris Cross & Midge Ure interview, October 1986
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Originally posted by maryann:
[b]I really don't know what to say.
A speechless Maryann, Flip jump in here asap! [/b]
I'm just sorry I wasn't here... smile Don't fret about it - I had a fall out with Billy many years ago - didn't stop me liking the band/music.

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#10680 - Fri, 21 Jul 2006 03:38:00 Re: Chris Cross & Midge Ure interview, October 1986
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Maryann: Sometimes people have real arguments with singers etc, it can even make there song lyrics seem worthless but we still play them.

Chris was talking years ago, and would probably say differently today. And which band member took the time to post on this forum resently.

Dont feel down about it.

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#10681 - Fri, 21 Jul 2006 03:53:00 Re: Chris Cross & Midge Ure interview, October 1986
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by maryann:
<strong>Steven, that wasn't directed at you. I guess, I am a bit upset that my favorite band isn't so keen on Americans, I guess.

But thanks for your comments kiss Even though we all mess with you :rolleyes: excited LOL

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#10682 - Fri, 21 Jul 2006 03:56:00 Re: Chris Cross & Midge Ure interview, October 1986
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Also, I suspect he was talking about a stereotype, not real people. Just as the English are stereotyped as lagerloutish foorball hooligans (OK some are, but by no means all of us!) the stereotype of Americans back in the 80s was the loud inconsiderate tourist with fifteen cameras. I think if you asked him about it now he a) probably wouldn't even remember saying it, and b) be rather embarrassed about it.

Why don't you drop him a line..? smile

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#10683 - Fri, 21 Jul 2006 04:04:00 Re: Chris Cross & Midge Ure interview, October 1986
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just like the germans and their lederhosen! :p
LOL

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#10684 - Fri, 21 Jul 2006 04:36:00 Re: Chris Cross & Midge Ure interview, October 1986
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U2 Steve?
:rolleyes: <img border="0" alt="[Shake head]" title="" src="graemlins/shakehead.gif" />

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#10685 - Fri, 21 Jul 2006 04:38:00 Re: Chris Cross & Midge Ure interview, October 1986
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:p

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#10686 - Fri, 21 Jul 2006 05:29:00 Re: Chris Cross & Midge Ure interview, October 1986
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I hate stereotyping and I like the words you used Cerise. I'm certainly not a lagerlout but unfortuneatly stereotyping of a nation happens.

When I was last in Germany I was surprised to the amount of English words used. I read somewhere that the French government was trying to preserve the French language.

I'm also sure that Chris has a different attitude today and attitudes can change as we mellow (grow old). Please Maryann don't take it too personally. I never let someones comments upset me or take them to heart, it is only their opinion and no-one elses.

Please continue to enjoy Ultravox's music.
Regards
Peter

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#10687 - Fri, 21 Jul 2006 08:04:00 Re: Chris Cross & Midge Ure interview, October 1986
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Hi Maryann - I think there is a certain American stereotype (usually one that never actually leaves America, and doesn't think anywhere else exists outside of America - yet still gets the top job wink ) which provokes anti-American comments. You certainly don't come across as fitting that profile, and most of the Americans I have met (mainly outside of the US) are a) absolutely charming, intelligent etc and b) pretty embarrassed by fellow countrymen they know who fit that description!

By the same token, I am often embarrassed by the way some Brits behave abroad, and towards foreign visitors in this country - the "ere-we-go engerland" brigade for starters!

I think Valeriun makes a good point about Reagan being in power at the time of the interview (which I have yet to read shocked sorry Valeriun, wanted to get this post out first!) The Reagan and Maggie love-in (much lampooned on 'Spitting Image' laugh ) made anyone remotely anti-Thatcher at the time physically sick (and I suspect this might have been where Chris' politics lay...)

I'll read the interview myself anyway; think I probably had this at the time if it was 'Smash Hits'...

Natalie kiss

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#10688 - Fri, 21 Jul 2006 13:23:00 Re: Chris Cross & Midge Ure interview, October 1986
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Please excuse me, maryann, as my comments are not directed at you personally (especially when I don't even know you wink ) but, I have an American friend, who lives in Denver, and there are a number of Americans living out here who think George W. Bush is a complete a***hole. In fact, one of the funniest things I ever saw was the e-mail that was distributed a year or two back which features an assortment of headshots of George W. with various facial expressions, obviously taken during speeches and interviews. Next to each photo was a corresponding photo of a chimpanzee with a 'similar' facial expression ... I p***ed myself laughing over that one!

But, I find that there is a world-dominating arrogance that exudes from the USA. I think the American people are brought-up with a far-greater sense of patriotism and pride than a lot of other 'western' countries. Probably, my own perspective of this comes from Hollywood and the US pride-beating that is put upon the rest of the world via that media.

As far as music goes ... it seems that to make it big you had to 'crack' the US market but, it also seems a great shame that many bands had to have their material 'rearranged' to suit US release ... the rearranging of the Vienna album tracks for the US release is one example ... The Fixx's Shuttered Room album was rearranged with different tracks to suit the American market and there are, undoubtedly, numerous other examples that others can provide.

But, then again, we have plenty to be thankful for ... Star Trek, for example! :rolleyes: Opinions will be seriously divided on this one but, with all that's been going on in the world over the last 50-60 years, I find the US Government (and I mean the 'power' that wasn't voted in by the American people) to be the most despicable, corrupt and manipulative destructive force on the planet. They have a lot to answer for.

Did you see the recent TV coverage of Blair trying to engage in a 'private' discussion with Bush? The man is an arrogant pr**k and has about as much charisma and integrity as a knob of goatsh*t.

I'm sure I've now said enough to guarantee being dragged away from my bed tonight by two blokes in black suits so, see you in the next life, folks.

Floating around out here in the South Pacific, what do I have to care? The most offence I have to endure is being labelled a sheep-shagger by the Aussies! One of our Prime Ministers once said, "People who leave New Zealand and move to live in Australia, raise the I.Q. of both countries."

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#10689 - Fri, 21 Jul 2006 14:18:00 Re: Chris Cross & Midge Ure interview, October 1986
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Rodney, thanks for this. It created a smile on my face, you hit the point again. You wrote down my exact thoughts for the moment when I was reading Maryann's posting for the 1st time. What you said about the rearranged music for the US-market is so true and the same happens often with european movies, the story gets adapted as a 1:1-plot, only with american artists, mostly the originals are better, but the american version sells better. On the other side, the german band RAMMSTEIN's song AMERICA got a 1:1-release in the US and was a great success. And this is a thing giving me hope again. The americans like the song, I am not 100% sure they understood what RAMMSTEIN's intention was... wink
Funny thing is, I got the same mail (the one with the apes) a year ago. Isn't it a sign of hope that this stuff gets around the world in the same way like american politics gets "exported"?
I have some good friends in Colorado, Nevada and South Dakota. I really love the US-midwest, it is somehow a little bit like germany in the black hills of SD near Mt. Rushmore. When I asked my friends, why they voted for Mr. Bush Jr., they all told me they never voted for him. So who voted then for this president finally? nutjob
(awaiting the MIB now too)
Think it is time now for the main topic of this thread, I think we could discuss this in another thread, giving Maryann the chance for fighting back against us. So what is your problem with the europeans Maryann? I am searching for my LEDERHOSEN already...

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#10690 - Fri, 21 Jul 2006 16:34:00 Re: Chris Cross & Midge Ure interview, October 1986
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Thanks for your comments, Andi.

I hope maryann doesn't feel as though she has anything worth "fighting back against us" for. I actually find it quite interesting to 'hear' other peoples' perceptions of your own country, people and culture from their part of the world.

I'm pleased for Rammstein. At the time of their first(?) album, with Engel and Du Hast, I recall reading some claim that they were the first German artist to secure a world-wide release in their native language ... does that sound right? The album seemed to be popular out here, anyway (a drop in the musical marketing ocean, unfortunately).

maryann: I understood your comments about feeling as though you were the only American fan of Ultravox ... I feel the same way out here. But, clearly the band was relatively successful in the US, especially with regard to their live tours, both with John Foxx and Midge Ure. It's just a pity though that, as Midge suggests in his autobiography, Chrysalis in America didn't give a toss about Ultravox. I guess that's where the 'power play' comes in with various labels deciding who gets a break and who doesn't.

By-the-way, I'm looking forward to a holiday in New York one day ... my wife and I have this romantic notion of spending a Christmas in the city and visiting the tree at the Rockefeller Centre. shocked

The architecture of the city (and the great Brooklyn Bridge) has an incredible history and it's one place I definitely want to spend some time. Unlike Hollywood and California which, although has its own unique beauty (like all places, I suppose), tends to typify the more 'marketable' side of the American culture.

Andi: Yeah, who did vote for Bush? That election was very suspicious. I hope the next one has more integrity and results in a figure-head who commands a bit more respect and believability.

So, just what did Chris Cross find so interesting about Australia? Even the seagulls fly upside-down over Australia ... it's just not worth sh*tting on! eek

Have a good day everyone ... peace on the planet (eventually). bemused

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#10691 - Fri, 21 Jul 2006 16:47:00 Re: Chris Cross & Midge Ure interview, October 1986
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I'll read the interview myself anyway; think I probably had this at the time if it was 'Smash Hits'...
Me too, Smash Hits was a far superior magazine to No. 1. My newsagent had probably run out of copies of Smash Hits at the time so I had to settle for a copy of No. 1 that week instead, bummer laugh Good though that that particular issue featured the Cross/Ure interview.

Smash Hits of course went on to become an outright teeny-bopper magazine. But if one compare the writing and the articles of those early Smash Hits years with Q nowadays I don't think one will find much difference quality wise wink

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#10692 - Fri, 21 Jul 2006 16:49:00 Re: Chris Cross & Midge Ure interview, October 1986
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Hey, Andi, did you see the Spitfire Beer advertisements that did the e-mail circulation at the time of the English/German football fans clash at the World Cup in Germany?

Don't mention the war but, this was the funniest (and cleverest) thing I'd seen for a long time. biglaugh

Cheers ...

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#10693 - Fri, 21 Jul 2006 18:36:00 Re: Chris Cross & Midge Ure interview, October 1986
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Yes Rodney, some of these special adverts popped up just before and during the worldcup. I don't know exactly what you are pointing to, but in my mind there are the "Ten german bombers". Especially this was made in Berlin from germans for giving the english rainbowpress some food. Search for it on YouTube, you will find it.
I am personally a little bit upset about such things. Really personal reasons (my grandfather), it does not allow me to see the funny (?) side on such things. Is there something funny about SS and the nazis? The english-german relations had problems for such a long time and this pops up again and again in the same way. I think this way of "fun" is simply outdated, and talking to some english football-fans (for sure not all english fans are hooligans) and all the nice people here is telling me that I am not that wrong. Most of the people from england (UK) I met during the worldcup here in Germany were surprised about us germans. We laughed really a lot, same like here in th forum. I met some really nice people from the "isle" in Frankfurt. But this is the way it goes, I can complain about this, it will not end. Maybe this is a little bit intolerant from my side, everybody should feel free to amuse about this, but not me.
And you are right: I also would like to know, what other nations think about us... So it's time to open a thread with "prejudices on other nations" I think. It could be very funny, but it is also a walk on thin ice of good taste...

BTW: Pls. mail me or point me to the advert if you still have it... wink

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#10694 - Fri, 21 Jul 2006 22:07:00 Re: Chris Cross & Midge Ure interview, October 1986
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To everyone who responded to my post: thank you very much. All of you made me feel better.

Newvox: Yes it is true. It almost the same as knowing your fave sports hero is a jerk. However, the big difference here is that sports figures are expected to be all brawn and no brains.

Metal Beat: You are right, attitudes change but I am sure Chris had no problem accepting American money for his efforts. Was Ultravox popular in Australia, I wonder?

Valeriun and Nautica: I was in the UK in during the Reagan years and I was not held responsible for his actions by anyone I met. In fact, I got an earful about Thatcher from everyone. Funny, now it is Bush and Blair. And Americans have an affinity for the UK; even the worst types over here never ever bash the UK. And I know there are horrid types here; hell, NY is despised by most of the country. One politician had the audacity to say that we had it coming on 9/11 for our ways!!! And this is supposed to be my country?????? In my opinion, certain states should have been jettisoned after the Civil War.

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#10695 - Fri, 21 Jul 2006 22:16:00 Re: Chris Cross & Midge Ure interview, October 1986
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contd:

Cerise: Maybe I will, but what's the point? Hopefully I will not hear of any comments like that from my beloved Midge.

Rodney: There was a great website called Bush or Chimp that mysteriously disappeared. It was the best thing ever. (damn those men in black suits).
And I sadly agree with your comments about pride and arrogance. It might be those ridiculous Rambo movies. Unfortunately alot of those redneck trailer trash are not even gainfully employed but somehow feel they are entitled to spout their uninformed hypocritical opinions about everything.
Can you believe we(America) are still discussing the merits of Darwin in this day and age?????

BTW: Australia (and New Zealand) are wonderful places. Imagine if the English didn't dump their prisoners there what it would have been like wink

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#10696 - Fri, 21 Jul 2006 22:45:00 Re: Chris Cross & Midge Ure interview, October 1986
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Rodney I remember seeing an advert for a beer about two years ago, was it to do with the sunbeds in a Spanish resort? Where the Englash tried to beat the Germans to the sunbed by throwing their towels like the bouncing bombs out of the hotel window along with the music from the Dambusters film?
If we are talking about the same advert it was well done and funny but it was done in extremely bad taste and I'm very surprised in went past the censors in the UK.

Maryann. Yes I bet Chris accepted the US dollars without any questions.

Even with a shrinking globe and easy commumicaton there is still an awful lot of pride and arrogance. I'm sure a lot of it is handed down from our parents generation.

Even on this site I'm so so wary of what I write for fear of upsetting anyone.

I'm still surprised that something wrote 20 years ago can cause such a debate. At least we are discussing it, in a civilised manor (Please take note Mr Blair)
Regards
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#10697 - Fri, 21 Jul 2006 22:55:00 Re: Chris Cross & Midge Ure interview, October 1986
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Agreed, Pete, agreed.

20 years is not really a long time. Global situations and relations haven't gotten any better, have they?

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#10698 - Fri, 21 Jul 2006 22:58:00 Re: Chris Cross & Midge Ure interview, October 1986
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No they haven't Maryann but what can we do?
Peter

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#10699 - Sat, 22 Jul 2006 00:53:00 Re: Chris Cross & Midge Ure interview, October 1986
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Talking about World Cup and football, I find the 3 Lions video so funny where the english and german fans are playing in the parking lot and all the german fans are wearing the shirt of the player "Kuntz" laugh

English TV commentators must have been glad he never played in the premier league, it saved them a lot of blushes. Just imagine him playing alongside Tony Woodcock for instance lmao

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#10700 - Sat, 22 Jul 2006 01:02:00 Re: Chris Cross & Midge Ure interview, October 1986
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Maryann: Im pretty sure you did stay away longer than usual. And that example i gave was not too good really. One of my arguments with a singer led to me never playing her songs again.
I even chucked her cds out the house.
So in some way i can understand how you felt.

Anyway glad you came back.

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#10701 - Sat, 22 Jul 2006 01:14:00 Re: Chris Cross & Midge Ure interview, October 1986
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I would never ever not listen to Ultravox. No matter how disappointed I am in what a member might say. Hey, everyone is entitled to their opinion.

And I am not leaving this forum, either!! laugh

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#10702 - Sat, 22 Jul 2006 01:24:00 Re: Chris Cross & Midge Ure interview, October 1986
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Good, that was after all our entire point! laugh

Most people ive had problems with have been direct contact and i still play anything and everything.
The only exception to the rule, was in one case the singer was a girlfriend. There was no point her things staying, if she wasn't.
In those type of cases you have to move on.

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#10703 - Sat, 22 Jul 2006 02:10:00 Re: Chris Cross & Midge Ure interview, October 1986
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The only exception to the rule, was in one case the singer was a girlfriend. There was no point her things staying, if she wasn't.
So you only told her you liked her music to be able to get "intimate" with her then? wink

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#10704 - Sat, 22 Jul 2006 02:58:00 Re: Chris Cross & Midge Ure interview, October 1986
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lmao Briliant!

If only it was that simple.

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#10705 - Sat, 22 Jul 2006 03:05:00 Re: Chris Cross & Midge Ure interview, October 1986
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:rolleyes:

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#10706 - Sat, 22 Jul 2006 03:07:00 Re: Chris Cross & Midge Ure interview, October 1986
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Go on, Newvox, gis a hint... wink biglaugh

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#10707 - Sat, 22 Jul 2006 03:10:00 Re: Chris Cross & Midge Ure interview, October 1986
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Originally posted by METAL BEAT:
I hate stereotyping
Stereotyping? dont get me started on it!
im in one of the most stereotyped groups of people in the country. most adults think we are all chavs that are going to mug them, when you walk into a shop with a friend the person behind the counter watches you incase your going to pinch somthing, theres a shop in town which wont let you in if your wearing a hoodie! its just stupid, we're not all chavs and kevins! <img border="0" alt="[Pissed]" title="" src="graemlins/pissed.gif" />

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#10708 - Sat, 22 Jul 2006 03:30:00 Re: Chris Cross & Midge Ure interview, October 1986
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okay what's a kevin???

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#10709 - Sat, 22 Jul 2006 03:38:00 Re: Chris Cross & Midge Ure interview, October 1986
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Go on, Newvox, gis a hint... wink biglaugh
Lets just say shes not as well known as she wanted to be, and she dont need a microphone to be heard laugh (when arguing i better add)

Now, you and billy, a bit of the gossip please smile

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#10710 - Sat, 22 Jul 2006 03:41:00 Re: Chris Cross & Midge Ure interview, October 1986
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Originally posted by Flip Martian:
Go on, Newvox, gis a hint... wink biglaugh
Lets just say shes not as well known as she wanted to be, and she dont need a microphone to be heard laugh (when arguing i better add)

Now, you and billy, a bit of the gossip please smile
NO no - names first, THEN Billy gossip... biglaugh

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#10711 - Sat, 22 Jul 2006 03:46:00 Re: Chris Cross & Midge Ure interview, October 1986
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We could both end up needing lawyers eek

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#10712 - Sat, 22 Jul 2006 04:21:00 Re: Chris Cross & Midge Ure interview, October 1986
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Come on, Flip and Newvox, sh*t or get off the pot! You can't tantalize the rest of us with potential gossip like this!

Steven - is a 'Kevin' based on Harry Enfield's character (Kevin and Perry; the latter played brilliantly by Kathy Burke!)?

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#10713 - Sat, 22 Jul 2006 04:49:00 Re: Chris Cross & Midge Ure interview, October 1986
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yup

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