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#101188 - Tue, 28 Jan 2020 07:15:54 Warren's drastic change of style from 1978
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I'm not a drummer but as a long-time music listener I couldn't help noticing how Warren Cann changed his style hugely between Ultravox! and Systems of Romance, a change which then became permanent. On the first album, the drumming is pretty standard for the time, with lots of fills and grace notes, a little jazzy. By SoR in 1978, he's stripped it down to a very limited range of fills (his trademark seems to be the three-two on the snare that introduces 'Passing Strangers' on Vienna), one cymbal and two toms, allied to an almost martial four-on-the-floor beat. Warren's kit was possibly the smallest on Top of the Pops! This change must have been the result of some thought and purpose. Does anyone else have ideas as to why he did this? Has he ever spoken about it?

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#101189 - Fri, 31 Jan 2020 14:37:46 Re: Warren's drastic change of style from 1978 [Re: Airlane1979]
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Not that I know of, unless he talked about it in Sound on Sound or any of the synth mags at the time, I'll have to have a dig. In the meantime I'll forward your question on, it's an interesting one. wink

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#101216 - Wed, 11 Mar 2020 12:26:27 Re: Warren's drastic change of style from 1978 [Re: Airlane1979]
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I suspect thar Warren´s minimalistic style came from the fact that he sometimes had to follow a synth bass, like in We stand alone or DWTIME. The last track that he played rather fluid was probably Western promise in 1980. The 2012 track "Flow", was the first track in a very long time were he played more with a "free feeling".

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#101239 - Wed, 29 Apr 2020 19:47:15 Re: Warren's drastic change of style from 1978 [Re: Airlane1979]
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Bjorn is right and Warren said it himself - the more electronic band's music were becoming the more mechanically he had to play. He was very interested in machine rhythms anyway, so that was only natural, he even saw it as a challenge - to play perfectly against sequencers and other electronics. In the end he even decided to ditch his drum kit in favour of drum machines to become the band's second guitarist - which the others took rather coldly.

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#101244 - Mon, 04 May 2020 13:11:03 Re: Warren's drastic change of style from 1978 [Re: Vladimir]
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Warren is probably the closest you get to a living metronome

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#101245 - Mon, 04 May 2020 19:23:22 Re: Warren's drastic change of style from 1978 [Re: Björn]
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True - I would add Kevin Haskins to a very short list of similar drummers. I'm not a Bauhaus fan but one listen to Bela Lugosi confirms it for me.

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#101246 - Wed, 06 May 2020 16:27:53 Re: Warren's drastic change of style from 1978 [Re: Airlane1979]
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The father of modern metronomic drummers seems to be Jaki Liebzeit of Can, from what I can gather. But yeah, it's quite a thing to pull off and is very demanding, I understand Warren's decision to ditch drums (even though he was so good at them).

Alan Myers of Devo is also hailed for his "human machine" skills.

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#101247 - Wed, 06 May 2020 23:20:39 Re: Warren's drastic change of style from 1978 [Re: Vladimir]
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Definitely agree re Liebzeit but not that familiar with Devo's material apart from a few singles.

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#101248 - Sat, 09 May 2020 09:37:20 Re: Warren's drastic change of style from 1978 [Re: Airlane1979]
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I think Brian McGee of early Simple Minds (79-81) is in this league as well. Very motorik-influenced. Have not heard a lot of Can, have to check it out more.

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#101249 - Sat, 09 May 2020 12:27:44 Re: Warren's drastic change of style from 1978 [Re: Malpaso Man]
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It's quite funny that you know the term 'motorik' which was coined to describe Liebezeit's style from his Can days but not the band themselves! :-)

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#101250 - Sun, 10 May 2020 19:52:56 Re: Warren's drastic change of style from 1978 [Re: Alone With Strangers]
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I guess the term has spread beyond its initial use. smile. I have listened to Can a few times on Spotify, but not enough to get really familiar with them.

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